That's a shit argument. Pennington's a good QB and a good decision-maker, he's clearly not going to get beat out by a 1st or 2nd year QB. You really think otherwise? They weren't FORCED to bring in Favre - they wanted Favre. He's a future HOFer, he sells seats and he gave us the best chance to win. He was available, so they signed him. Do you disagree there? This year Rex came in and drafted his guy, they figure he was good enough to play, so he started. That was pretty much written as soon as Sancho got drafted. Actually, written as soon as Rex got hired, since most new coaches who don't have a proven QB, draft one.
that was only part of the equation...the other part was the the CS was uncomfortable going with 2 interception machines like Penny and Clemens into the season....Favre is also an INT machine (well, last season anyway)...but he was the lesser of 2 evils....and like you said, he put asses in the seats. EDIT: whatever the excuse is...it's pretty weak.
Another loser with an agenda. A rush to judgement by a SANCHEZ fan. hey loser please tell us how you think SANCHEZ would have done behind that weak OL Clemens had two years ago.
Sanchez is also following in the interception tradition. 17 in just a few games and you fail to mention it!
why would i do that?....i don't need to dream up excuses for shit that isn't going to happen. get a clue before you flush your toilet
are you really going to go this route? Sanchez doesn't have 4 years in the NFL.....wow....the stupidity is unreal.
Yes I do. They traded for him. It's not like Favre was sitting around on the waiver wire, twiddling his thumbs. They saw what they had with Pennington (weak arm, cannot stay on the field) and Clemens (slightly stronger arm, makes stupid, stupid decisions) and willingly handed over draft picks to get Favre. Thankfully, Tannenbaum can negotiate so the asking price was not too high. If the Jets CS thought they could win with Clemens under center, they never would have traded for Favre and cut Pennington the night of the first preseason game. The fact that Tannenbaum and Rex decided to draft another QB and told the locker room as much leading up to the draft should be pretty telling as to Clemens' ability. He was even given the starting role in TC and started the first preseason game. The only thing he did with those opportunities is play his way out of the starting position. Clemens was a decent college quarterback at Oregon. The skills that he had did not translate into the NFL. HE. IS. A. BUST. Get over it.
if Sanchez plays the way Clemens does 4 years from now...then he'll garner the same criticism....but until then, I'll give him a chance to grow and learn before I criticize him.
Wow, eight pages of this, just wanted to add MB that Mark now has more games under his belt then Kellen does. He is playing behind a solid line, with and excellent running game and getting all the reps from day one. Yet, he has made as many if not more bone head mistakes then Kellen has, yet most folks who want Kellen gone a quickly as possiabe, are willing to be forgiving towards Mark. I just find that very interesting, how one guy never gets a chance, don't count the starts, behind the revolving line that almost got him killed, and another can do no wrong. Will be very interested in seeing how his future plays out when Kellen moves on. I will also be quite interested in many of the opinions here next year if Mark continues to struggle and make poor decisions.....
Again, 4 years down the road, KC has much more time in this offense and with an NFL team. Stupid argument. Its called NFL experience.
I'm not even going to address this at the risk of sounding like a broken record.....no disrespect fltflo....but i stand by my opinion....
Sanchez. Is. A. Rookie. He "gets a pass" because he's making mistakes he's expected to make. Clemens is a four year veteran who still cannot take playing time away from a rookie. How is everyone so willing to ignore the fact that Sanchez has yet to be on the team for a full season yet still has more playing time than the guy who has been here for three full seasons and ten games as evidence for why Clemens gets bashed? Clemens has been here longer. He has played before. He has had more time to learn the offense and develop chemistry with every receiver on this roster aside from Braylon Edwards. He had every advantage coming into this training camp and he still played like crap compared to the rookie. Do you really want the CS to start rotating these QBs? Do you really want to root for the East Coast version of the Cleveland Browns under Butch Davis (Holcome/Couch)or Romeo Crennel and Eric Mangini (Frye/Anderson/Quinn)? How about the Cardinals under Denny Green's last few seasons where he'd just flip around Curt Warner, Josh McCown, or John Navarre? How would a quarterback carousel help this team? Please answer that at least?
If Clemens was worth a damn,he would be a QB that plays in games somewhere. If not here,he would have been used for trade.
He didn't even mention rotating QBs. Clemens didn't play like crap in preseason, he played about as well as Sanchez. It's obvious why they started Sanchez over him, but you're just making up shit as you go along to make your point. You don't get much experience or chemistry built when you're not taking snaps as a starter or playing in games. And Warner was a damn fine RB, but I don't think he would have been the Cards answer at QB.
It was heavily implied, comparing the criticism that they do or would receive and his idiotic "what if" situation with Sanchez on the 2007 team.
here's another point you can chew on.....if Clemens is such a "hidden talent"...when Favre hurt his bicep last year...why didn't they sit Favre and play Clemens in his stead?! Answer: because Mangini knew EXACTLY what he had in Clemens....and would rather die with an injured Favre than throw that failure into the game. Was is it the right decision....we'll never know.....but at least we know....there's no confidence in Clemens' ability to win games.
