Justin Fields is a Jet!

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by Brook!, Mar 10, 2025.

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Happy with Fields signing or not!

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  1. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    correct. And Pittsburgh crashed and burned. I wonder if they regret benching him?

    Either way we play them this season… that one ought to be interesting. I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s our week 1 matchup
     
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  2. Jets79

    Jets79 Well-Known Member

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    My view on Fields

    He hasn’t been a good QB…sure he wasn’t in great situations but the fact remains…he is a slow processor and turns the ball over a lot…not the QB to pick apart a D…his athleticism and running ability help him a lot, but that doesn’t make him a good QB

    All that being said, I do think he was probably the best option of the available options to us, based more on unreached potential than anything else

    He’s our QB now so I hope he does well, and I’ll be rooting for him, but I don’t really have high hopes he will become a good QB
     
  3. Kronoking

    Kronoking Well-Known Member

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    The kid has had 4 different offensive coordinators in 4 seasons. This will be #5 here in NY.

    Just based on that we can't even really know if he's a "slow processor". Much less how much he'd end up turning the ball over if/when he's not being put in a bottom of the league type offensive settings that essentially breeds bad play as a default.

    We do know the players around him seem to love him though, and that he gets high praise as a lockeroom guy.
     
  4. Yankee6

    Yankee6 Well-Known Member

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    strongly disagree. Id MUCH rather have my Sun night, Thursday Night or Monday night ruined than my whole Sunday. Especially for me when games are at 10am not 1pm.
     
  5. Yankee6

    Yankee6 Well-Known Member

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    sounds like a primetime game to me
     
  6. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    I’m not a big fan of the “slow processor” term but that is the popular term many like to use. Either way he doesn’t always trust what he sees and anticipate. Sometimes you just have to trust the play and let that ball go. More time in one system would help that.
     
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  7. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    This is the stuff I’m talking about. This is not really true. It’s not like he’s Zach Wilson, who has more turnovers to his name than TDs.

    45 Passing TDs
    31 Interceptions

    19 Rushing TDs
    12 Fumbles Lost

    Maybe you might be confusing him with Jaemis Winston. SMH
     
  8. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    that's 43 turnovers total though. Fields has started 44 NFL games. He is not a rookie anymore. You can expect 1 turnover a game. That's not good

    The difference with Winston is that he throws for 400 yards when he turns the ball over. Fields needs multiple games to put up that kind of passing yardage
     
  9. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    I don’t care how you frame it. Fields is not a guy that “turns the ball over a lot”. He had enough faults where we don’t need make some up.
     
  10. stinkyB

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    hopefully no sideline hotdogs this time!
     
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  11. BroadwayAaron

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    I dunno man, 43 turnovers in 44 starts would register to me as "turning the ball over a lot" especially when you consider it could easily be closer to 50 if the ball bounces one way instead of the other. Much bigger issue for me is how slow and awful he is at reading the field. Hopefully the passing game coordinator who has never called plays in his career can fix someone with 4 years worth of the same consistent issue.
     
  12. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    I feel like we’re creating new standards for this kid. There are about a dozen NFL players that have thrown for over 30 interceptions in just one NFL 14-16 game season. That’s just interceptions not including fumbles. 43 in 44 is “a lot”, then we are going to have create new vocabulary to describe those guys.
     
  13. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    Are they starting QBs anywhere now?
     
  14. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    Not sure but several have gone as far as winning Super Bowls and going to the Hall of Fame.
     
  15. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    Since the turn of the millenium, one player has thrown 30 INTs in a season and he's currently out of a job. Hasn't entered a season as the starting QB for any team since the 30 INT year.
     
  16. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    So what? I never said guys that throw 30 INTs should start LOL. I simply asked if slightly less than a turnover a game is “a lot”, then what vocabulary words should we use for those pushing 2 a game. I don’t know what’s more than “a lot”.
     
  17. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    For the record, 0 players in the NFL who have started 40+ games have ever averaged more than 1.5 turnovers per game., let alone close to 2 per game.
     
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    Russ and Fields are within a point of each other in most categories. Even actual points scored. I think Fields had 21, and Russ 22, something like that. QBR both 51, passer rating Russ 95.6, Fields 93.3, but Fields is a better runner. And yes, on the same team, 2 QBs, winning % also matters, where Fields is better. However, I would say overall they performed similarly, and as you can see metrics support that as well. I am not sure what's weird about it, these are main QB metrics I am referencing here: Points scored on the same team, QBR, passer raring, winning % on the same team.

    The difference is that Russ is turning 37 this year, and Fields just turned 26. Also Russ started better and then folded while Fields was pretty consistent. But it is also reported by reputable people (both Rapsheet and Shefty) that Pitts preferred Fields, not just me. And not just preference, but "clear preference" with "Russ and Rodgers waiting in the wings". At this point it is a fact both the Jets AND Steelers preferred Fields over Rodgers and Russ, It's not debatable unless you think the most reputable people are basically lying. And they are not the only ones reporting it either.

    https://steelerswire.usatoday.com/s...ell-wilson-ian-rapoport-steelers/81189455007/
    "According to insider Ian Rapoport, the Steelers have a clear preference for Justin Fields over Russell Wilson as their starting QB next season."
    “Free-agent QB Justin Fields has been talking with the Steelers, but needs to understand more about the Jets situation and offer that can’t come until after noon today. So the Steelers and Jets, with Fields mulling options and Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson waiting in the wings,” Schefter reported via @AdamSchefter.
     
  19. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    That’s a very interesting stat but what does that have to do with the price of tea in China? Do you think 43 TOs in 44 games equates to 1.5 per game?
     
  20. BroadwayAaron

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    What? You have yourself all twisted around. YOU asked "What do we call people pushing 2 TOs per game". We call them nothing because they don't exist when you use the qualifier of at least 44 games started. So I guess I should be asking you what your question has to do with the price of tea in China.

    The bottom line is averaging a turnover per game as a QB that's started 40+ games in his career makes him turnover prone. The numbers support that statement.
     

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