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  1. The_Darksider

    The_Darksider Well-Known Member

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    Is this sarcasm? When was the last team that held onto a coach/GM/anything until they already had someone in place? And the draft is 4 months away.
     
  2. The_Darksider

    The_Darksider Well-Known Member

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    It's been time to make a change for a long time. This is a guy who once drafted a KICKER in the 2ND ROUND!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who does that and survives?!?
     
  3. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    Snap decision???

    He has had all season to watch this train wreck.

    He brought in two experienced consultants to advise him including Ron Wolf (who advised us to draft Brett Favre and then traded for him as GM of the Packers.

    Not only is a clean break best for the Jets but the sooner Woody cuts the cord, the better chance Rex has of getting a job somewhere else.
     
  4. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    It's worse than that. We traded our first rounder for Doug Jolley and the second rounder used to pick said kicker.
     
  5. rammagen

    rammagen Well-Known Member

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    yes you can say nothing was done or a poor job was done at best. Patterson's track record shows he could not be counted on (8 games out of 32 in the previous two years)but the gm decided to just that and that one group of players have been a disaster except for one game by jarret. 90% of the time there was a break down it was on the dbs. People are down on milner why? he has been injured but at least he played in 18 games out of 32.....see my point?

    As far as signing you own maybe signing Cro would have been a better move over Pace. With Decker he stopped short and they needed another recevier, again only answering what you want like said. You look at the entire free agency and draft and that is why he should be fired. This team arguably has more holes in it now after 20 draft picks then when he came in. the ONLY thing he has done correctly was the cap. But face you or I could manage the cap by not spending and cutting players
     
  6. pclfan

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    Patterson was a fall back when they didn't get DRC or Davis. They weren't interested in the other available corners. That includes Cro who they decided to pass on. And Rex was a part of that evaluation process as well as the front office. IMO the Jets have enough talent including the secondary to play better football. And there is no excuse for a 3-12 from a coaching standpoint. The team under performed. If you say the team has 3-12 talent I don't agree.
     
  7. BigGreenUgly

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    You left out his game day coaching...bubbling through time outs left and right because the team isn't disciplined enough to understand substitutions ....I never seen so many wasted timeouts because of that...important second half TOs especially


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  8. rammagen

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    two points Rex is being shown the door Monday, and that is why it was a piss poor plan, why not make a run at flowers when he became available? Idzik goes as well clean house because their plan sucked. 3/12 is not acceptable when you have resources to improve the team, and again just ignore all the other points but th gm did as bad as a job as the coach. they all need to go. if you are not happy with 3/12 how can you be happy with the crappy players the gm found?
     
  9. pclfan

    pclfan Well-Known Member

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    Who are the crappy players Idzik acquired after Geno.
     
  10. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    flowers was cut from k.c. because he didn't fit in bob suttons man scheme. you know the one he brought with him from the nyj and rex ryan?
     
  11. James Hasty

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    The whole rest of the 2013 draft after Geno (who also sucked).
    11 of 12 picks in the 2014 draft class.
    Free agent acquisitions including Patterson, C. Johnson, Nelson, Gates, and Vick.
    He also resigned crappy players we already had including Cumberland, Colon, and Kerley.
     
  12. ConcordeChops

    ConcordeChops 2018 International Poster Award Winner

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    You remember how quick we were to choose Idzik as a GM, right? It's Jets tradition that we'll hold off making a definitive decision just long enough to miss out on the best candidates for the job and then scrape the bottom of the barrel for three weeks under the guise of "due diligence".
     
  13. pclfan

    pclfan Well-Known Member

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    I'll take most of those guys. Plus you forgot to mention the guys who are good. PS when they use Cumberland and the TEs good things happen. Ask Marty why he doesn't.
     
  14. rammagen

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    OK again is flowers better then anyone we have lining up art corner please tell who are great corners are this season lining up...... Flowers was cut for salary reasons first second because he was not a press corner but crap you are calling guys off the street to play corner but don't call a probowler...........
    As far as crappy players drafted after the second round look at espn the people who defend idzik are not seeing the entore reason he willbe foired and always choose on part of a conversation to try to debate because you all know the other points are correct....... who are the crappy players
    here look up yourself you want to defend the moron


    3 players from draft and 2 form this year. 5 players in two years on what you as a gm based your plan one 5 players 20% congrats let's extend the idiot gm maybe next yr he will hit on 3 picks to raise his rate to 50%
    If you are going to build through the draft you need to hit on the third round and below and he has don that once with Bohanon out of 13 picks.
    Please stop trying to prove a point you guys can't make because there is nothing backing you up or the statements other then the pure believe you can't fire a gm after 2 years. I got news for you in a wide receiver deep draft he would need to answer why he did not draft a wide receiver that helped this team. You had assets to try to move up if wanted someone, it would have been a better move then cutting 4 players from this years draft

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyj/draft.htm


    2014 1 18 Calvin Pryor FS 2014 0 0 1 15 0.5 Louisville
    2014 2 49 Jace Amaro TE 2014 0 0 0 13 35 311 2 Texas Tech
    2014 3 80 Dexter McDougle CB 2014 0 0 0 0 Maryland
    2014 4 104 Jalen Saunders WR 2014 0 0 0 14 1 7 0 Oklahoma
    2014 4 115 Shaquelle Evans WR 2014 0 0 0 0 UCLA
    2014 4 137 Dakota Dozier OL 2014 0 0 0 0 Furman
    2014 5 154 Jeremiah George LB 2014 0 0 0 5 Iowa St.
    2014 6 195 Brandon Dixon CB 2014 0 0 0 13 1 NW Missouri St.
    2014 6 209 Quincy Enunwa WR 2014 0 0 0 0 Nebraska
    2014 6 210 IK Enemkpali DE 2014 0 0 0 5 Louisiana Tech
    2014 6 213 Tajh Boyd QB 0 0 0 Clemson
    2014 7 233 Trevor Reilly LB 2014 0 0 0 13 Utah



    2013 1 9 Dee Milliner DB 2014 0 0 1 5 16 3 Alabama
    2013 1 13 Sheldon Richardson DT 2014 0 0 2 6 31 4 4 2 10.5 Missouri
    2013 2 39 Geno Smith QB 2014 0 0 2 7 29 446 785 5213 22 34 126 586 7 1 13 0 West Virginia
    2013 3 72 Brian Winters OL 2014 0 0 2 4 22 Kent St.
    2013 5 141 Oday Aboushi OL 2014 0 0 0 0 14 Virginia
    2013 6 178 William Campbell OL 2014 0 0 0 0 0 Michigan
    2013 7 215 Tommy Bohanon FB 2014 0 0 0 1 20 18 65 0 13 99 0 Wake Forest
     
  15. rammagen

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    Now for this look at the above. Be honest, who on this team is better then Flowers at corner? You already have no corners was he even called? we were already running zones as rex adjusted to not having corners why not get someone who excels at that you have the cap room?

    Just another let down by the coaches and gm. After so many this season that is the reason why the house needs to be cleaned bad choice after bad choice. It is like the Knicks who suck this year because bad choice after bad choice and now the roster is home to roost till those players are off the books. Dolan brought in Phil for pr but also to get the team straight.
    The same thing needs to be done here but the nice part is it is the nfl and in one well planned thought out off season you can be come respectable. in three or four you can go from a very good team to a super bowl contender which should be goal
     
  16. jetlife21

    jetlife21 Well-Known Member

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    Well it was obviously the wrong move to get Patterson and not be interested in the other available corners..That includes Cro who's balling for Arizona..That falls on Idzik not Rex.
    So a couple nice plays from undrafted rookie Marcus Williams and we suddenly had enough talent in the secondary to compete this season? Every other position does make this better than a 3-12 team but when you're worst in the league in the two most important positions in football it's very easy to see why we're in this position.
     
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  17. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    How many more games are won with flowers walls/williams as the top 2 cbs?
    i think the record stays the same.
     
  18. rammagen

    rammagen Well-Known Member

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    it is symantics the last act of someone who has not valid point. whether the record stays the same or improves no one knows but it does show that the gm is trying to get players that fit his plan young players with upside When strike out in the draft finding players you need to go to free agency to help get players idzik really did not do either and after seeing the disaster here this year there is no way in the world any should feel comfortable with him making a pick in the top five.
     
  19. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    flowers did not fit the plan. he was not a good cb for rex's scheme.
    you wanted him to sign some one you heard of to placate you.
     
  20. BomberJet

    BomberJet Well-Known Member

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    This franchise is an embarrassment to the NFL and has developed the reference point in the annals of football 101 as to what not to
    do in order to succeed as an organization.

    I really would like to how many times in the past has an NFL team fired it's GM after just 2 years? Probably not very many - and willing to bet those team that have - have always been unstable and poorly run.
     

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