Jordan Travis Retires

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  1. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    The easiest way for the NFL to avoid any "circus" would have been to just carry on with a business as usual attitude. The whole thing would have blown over in a few weeks - but we're still talking about it 8 1/2 years later.
     
  2. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    no you don’t
     
  3. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

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    Why not? Do you know how many picks JD had in each round after 43 and what he came out with? WAY worse than random selections. Not even close.
     
  4. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    well that’s because he sucked ass as a GM
     
  5. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

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    That is precisely the point.
     
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  6. alleycat9

    alleycat9 Well-Known Member

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    worse how?

    is the cs worse? or is it an unknown?
    is the oline worse? or is it an unknown?
    is the defense worse? or is it a new hc and new coordinator and you have no idea what it will be?
    is the qb worse? or maybe the team will actually rally around him instead of disliking him because he is a douche.

    so keep on whining and thinking the worst. if they do manage to do good i hope you dont enjoy it.
     
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  7. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    His argument is dumb too because “we got worse” from the year before when Zach Wilson started.

    Zach Wilson started in 2023 and we went 7-10. Aaron Rodgers started in 2024 and we went 5-12.
     
  8. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    The running game will be better
     
  9. Unhappyjetsfan

    Unhappyjetsfan Well-Known Member

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    The coaching staff is better (than Ulbrich, I have no idea if it is better than the previous bozo). The oline is worse. The defense is the same. And the QB is much worse.
     
  10. Unhappyjetsfan

    Unhappyjetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Yes, we did. Our coaching staff went from one of the worst in football to the worst in football halfway through the season. Do you think that maybe played a role?
     
  11. HomeoftheJets

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    There's less talent on the roster, but the coaching staff is way better, so I don't think the team will be worse than last year.
     
  12. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    5-12 is a low bar
     
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  13. alleycat9

    alleycat9 Well-Known Member

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    less talent? what did we lose? rodgers and adams? i think that rodgers and adams were a cancer that brought the team down rather than added to it.
    its pointless to converse with you. enjoy the site i wont be seeing your posts anymore.
    i think the oline will be alot better than last year. fashanu showed he was a solid lt last year hopefully the kid they drafted will show the same.

    the cs couldnt get worse than it was the past few years. i think that will be a major upgrade

    wr room isnt as talented but how many #1 receivers do we need? ill take wilson over adams any day.

    te position lost a solid player.

    dl was disappointing last year but williams is a stud and mcdonald did pretty well last year.

    they lost a very old over the hill lb, glenn seems to have a type for his lb corps and i think that will be fine.

    the qb was an absolute douche who made nobody better. ill take a qb who actually works within the system over a douche who make it all about himself and ends up with half the team hating him. you can have that guy he doesnt work at an advanced age. good riddance.
     
  14. HomeoftheJets

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    Rodgers, Adams, Tyron Smith, Moses, Reddick, Kinlaw, Mosley, Reed. Some of those guys disappointed last year, but if Glenn+Engstrand (or Saleh+LaFleur for that matter) were coaching them, they'd have probably played better.
     
  15. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    I was all on board for an Adams trade but I was wrong. It hurt this team. They became too one-dimensional with Rodgers forcing it to his buddy 15 times a game, and that's not even talking about the team morale aspects of it, which without a doubt became an issue too, but just the strategy of it was bad for this team.

    the Rodgers/Adams offense was very inefficient. I think the embarrassing Buffalo loss was a great example of that. The offense put up a goose-egg through 3 quarters as Rodgers targeted Adams 8 times. Down 40-0 Taylor came in and he threw the ball to whoever was open and lead 2 TD drives.

    Teams knew the Jets couldn't run the ball and they also knew Rodgers was going to look for Adams first. To line up and know you only really have to defend one side of the field is such an advantage.

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    back to the original discussion: Just getting past that broken strategy will help this team. I think its an upgrade not talked about. On short down/distances, the defense now has to think about the running game and cover the whole field. Fields isn't going to throw for 300 yards but neither did Rodgers much honestly, and Fields' 170 passing yards will be much more efficient than Rodgers' 210...
     
  16. Jets79

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    I think we are kind of hoping that this team will be better than the sum of its parts mostly due to better coaching and more of a team chemistry type thing.

    Objectively, yes, Rodgers is better than Fields, Adams is better than any other receiver on our roster now, etc. but last year’s team was a broken mess. Coaching was bad. Hackett was terrible. Rodgers was not the best team guy. Etc, etc.

    We’ll see how it turns out, but all successful teams have that intangible “it” factor…they complement each other, they play for each other, etc, and it sure felt like we had very little of that.
     
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  17. JetsNation06

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    Another stellar draft pick by Joe D. What a waste. This kid was held together with masking tape. Anyone with a clue wouldn't even think about touching this kid. Holy fragile.
     
  18. Jets79

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    Not as big of a waste as it was to spend a 4th rounder on James Morgan, who wasn’t hurt at all.

    Look, I’m not wigged out over using a 5th rounder on a QB who is injured but has some potential…it’s a low risk high reward move and I have zero issue with it. It’s not like he used a 2nd or 3rd rounder on the kid.

    There are plenty of issues to criticize JD over, but to me, this one is far from a real issue. Most 5th round picks never amount to much, usually because of talent. In this case, it was because of injury. OK, yes we knew he was hurt, but worth a 5th to see if he could come back I guess.

    If you don’t have a QB, you have to keep taking swings until you do. Most QBs of any real worth come in the first round, some in the 2nd, and then of course there are the few outliers who come in later rounds…guys like Dak or Cousins in the 4th, or of course the poster child Brady in the 6th, or even Purdy as Mr. Irrelevant… so it does happen, just not very often. But that’s why I can look back and say wasting a 4th on Morgan or a 5th on Travis were bad in hindsight, but they were not premium picks and so to me at least, worth a shot to see if you can catch lightning in a bottle.

    Nothing to kill JD over…there’s plenty other stuff for that
     
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  19. Burnz

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    Can't agree with this more. Travis showed true promise before the injury. Taking a chance on the injury in healing to attempt to try and strike gold late is nothing to beat the dead horse with
     
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  20. JetsNation06

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    For anyone who knew anything about the kid coming out of college and the injury that he suffered there, you'd know that he was an extreme longshot of even making an NFL roster, let alone being a franchise QB. I could give a shit if he was drafted with the last pick in the draft. It's a draft pick and a wasted one at that when this team has been one of the worst in the league forever with never ending real holes to be filled. So yeah, I'd much rather them address a position of need than taking a flier on a guy who little to zero chance of even making an NFL roster with a major career ending injury being suffered just one year earlier.

    That's the problem I had with JD. He had no rhyme or reason to what a franchise QB actually looked like or played like and he was just shooting in the dark always.

    It's so irresponsible and that's why his ass got canned. But to say I don't mind the pick, no way no how. I can't get behind that. That's giving Douglas a pass on a guy that never should've been drafted in the NFL by any team. And Morgan was even more unforgivable but I digress.
     

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