John Idzik compared to 31 other NFL GMs two years in

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  1. BleedGreen89

    BleedGreen89 Well-Known Member

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    This was the deepest WR draft in a long time maybe ever and he didn't get a single prospect when it was our biggest need, meanwhile I have to watch these guys light up the league every Sunday. Get Idzik out, he sucks
     
  2. MikeSLTJ23

    MikeSLTJ23 Well-Known Member

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    So you've seen martavis Bryant have a few good games, Watkins, Evans, and OBJ all play well (and drafted before the jets pick), cooks and Matthews have up and down rookie campaigns, etc. I don't know wtf you're watching, but not one player that we could have drafted is lighting the league up. A couple good games isn't showing any sort of dominance.

    I should probably also remind you that the only rookies seeing #1 CBs each week are the guys drafted ahead of us.

    Did we miss on WR? Absolutely. But stop pretending like this team was going to have a world beater out of this draft. We could have taken marquise lee. Look how that pick is looking so far.

    This fan base is so short sighted. Has Idzik done great? No. I haven't even liked his drafts. But most fans were pretty okay with his early picks and they're now flaming him because it didn't pan out. But he has done wonders with our cap situation, setting us up for future years, and not overspending on overrated free agents just to try to get a couple extra wins. Someone else comes in and takes the credit for all the good he's done.
     
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  3. 101GangGreen101

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    Missing out on the wide receivers was a big red flag to Idzik for me. The Jets missed out on plenty of gems this draft outside of WR. Hopefully the players we selected (that are still on the team) contribute in the near future. A Jordan Matthews, a John Brown, a Chris Borland alot of players we missed out on.
     
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  4. rammagen

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    his bigesst mistake was overvaluing his picks and mostly they are hjorrid. He missed on drafting a wide receiver , drafted one corner that is injuried and had flags for it, signed a corner that played in 8 games out of 32, his biggest move was a panic move in getting harvin, when he should have drafted a receiver to help a young qb. tehn forcing the living turnover on us for 8 games of the worst football ever.
     
  5. rammagen

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    They killed him the press conference because he did not address the issues on the team he had a planned vanned response to dance around everything and you think he deserves a pass. he made this mess. what faith anyone has in him is beyond me especially with a high first round pick coming. because he will pick the wrong player unless he absolutely gets lucky
     
  6. pclfan

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    There's a lot of ways you can say nothing. But Idzik isn't entertaining. The press doesn't really need substance. Parcells was funny and arrogant but never answered their questions either. Idzik gives them nothing so they attacked him. Not good when you're GM of a New York team.
     
  7. Jets1035

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    One more year of Idzik and REX, if no improvement then move on and clean house
     
  8. Hobbes3259

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    There were a hundred red flags.


    The first three were...

    His 'competition at every position' mantra when Smith fell into his lap (because everyone else passed on him...hmmm) so he could divest the the team of a 5 overall pick and 50 million dollars...

    Smith might have actually had a chance had he been treated like a guy that hadn't done jack shit prior to getting drafted, because that's what he was. A QB that had two elite college players on the other end of his passes playing against mostly inferior talent....He was not a guy that was going to walk in and produce.

    He was e3ven more raw than Sanchez coming out, in that respect.

    Following that up with the way he handled dumping Sanchez.


    Cro...
     
  9. Big Blocker

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    I think all Jet fans should be concerned that Idzik will screw up a very high pick in the draft. His record is so mediocre, how can anyone have confidence in him at this point?
     
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  10. Hobbes3259

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    Yep
     
  11. jetlife21

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    It sucks to have missed out on the deepest WR class in history but I blame more on how the board played out than Idzik.

    So we go into the draft rumored to get ODB miss him. Watkins and Evans are long gone. That's what going 8-8 last year cost us..we went from lock to a top 12 pick to 18th. We're sitting on the board at 18..what do you do? Benjamin? Cooks? Matthews? They were all gambles. I can't be mad at the logic of taking a potential great safety, something that most of the past SB winning teams have had. There's no defending Pryor's play this season he hasn't been good at all. He's more raw than we thought but I'm not writing him off as a starting safety.
    Then you get to our pick in the 2nd round. We might not have gotten a WR but we still got one of the top pass catcher prospects. Amaro has contributed a bunch this year, solid rookie campaign in my book. It's not like we passed on any can't miss WR prospects for him. Matthews was off the board, Davante Adams and Latimer weren't better picks.
    Our 3rd and 4th rounds were pretty bad I will admit. Really wish we took Bryant over either Evans or Saunders but that's the last solid prospect we really missed out on.

    I think it's the moves Idzik didn't make that hurt. We're sitting there with 1o picks left, Allen Robinson and Jarvis Landry have fallen big time. Trading up to the 58-60 range to get Landry could've saved this draft. Instead Idzik wanted to lay back and use all of those picks. Some years you get the next big thing because picking rounds 4-7 is a total crapshoot but he really should've been able to have more than 2 players on the active roster of a 12 pick draft.
     
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  12. kaboom

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    He should have traded up. The picks of Pryor and Amaro are underwhelming compared to the playmaking WRs that could have been scooped up by some smart consolidation effort with the 12 picks. I have no confidence that his future drafts will be any better.
     
  13. jetlife21

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    A trade up would have been key. In hindsight I'm sure Idzik would package a few mid round picks to move up. I just think it's a lot harder to hit in these drafts then we make it seem he went with quantity over quality and that only works when you hit on a couple of your late round picks.
    Idzik hasn't had the best drafts but I don't think ours are worst then the league average..even though it's very hard to tell since it's a bunch of rookies and second year players.
     
  14. Red Menace

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    The only reason Pryor is not playing to his potential, is because he is being used incorrectly, I'm not going to knock Idzik because he is a good player, but single safety coverage is not his strong suit.

    His report card was out before he was selected by the jets, he is great at covering his half of the field where he can torpedo WR coming into a zone coverage defense and they have to sit between the defenders and wait for a pass.

    He is not good at covering the whole field, can he learn I don't know but I really liked your post, very balanced.

    Critical but also realistic about circumstances that no one can control, like the draft board.
     
  15. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    The product on the field is not acceptable.

    There are no excuses for John Idzick and his failure to deliver.
     
  16. JetsVilma28

    JetsVilma28 Well-Known Member

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    Bury the team next to Namath when he dies. Only man worthy of the uniform. (Apologies to Martin and Chrebet)
     
  17. Snatch Catch

    Snatch Catch Well-Known Member

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    Nice, at least they're bottoming out. If this continues through the end of the season, we'll get to see a real rebuild in NY. Many pieces are already in place, so I'm not even mad at what's happening; it's not like this team was a threat for the SB coming into the year.

    #LetIdzikStick
     
  18. cbman13

    cbman13 Well-Known Member

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    I think the worst thing that happened for Izdik was us going 8-8 last year...... People thought we where closer to being able to compete than we where...... This team is bad at almost every position..... There is no easy fix.......
     
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  19. Greenday4537

    Greenday4537 Well-Known Member

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    I don't think I've ever seen a GM wreck a team so badly. There is so much he could have done to set up our future without trashing the team. Then he went and just trashed the team, sabotaging any chance at a future.
     
  20. James Hasty

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    The Jets have posted a recent portrait of our GM on their website:

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