He really needs these picks on the field, so far only one has been consistent, that was from last year's draft... a d-lineman.
Have to add Geno as being a part of how we view Idzik down the road. May not be a first round pick but we drained two seasons on him.
This thread is ridiculous. How other gm's started doesn't indicate whether audio will be good or bad long term.
Look JI bites because he has made bad personnel choices period. Not only has he mad them I have no confidence he will make the right draft choice. I point to Patterson as being expected to play a big roll for the Jets at least for part of the yr. Why because he only played in 8 games out 32 that is 1/4 of the games in two years and this is the guy you expect to help us? GTFO that is not doing your homework
Y You can't judge a GM based purely on record after 26 games. What about the roster the GM inherited? What about the cap? What about drafting? Player acquisition? So much goes into a team's record it is simply not an accurate barometer of a GM's success.
A GM earns his stripes drafting in rounds 3 thru 5.....this is where teams finds those players that get them deep into the playoffs. In many drafts, u can wake from a coma 2 days before and still make a sensible pick in rounds 1 and 2. So far idzik has sucked in the middle rounds so what else can u say.
Some interesting observations of John Idzik's performance: 1. Almost all "good" GM'S have an effective or great QB. 2. Most average GM's drafts are just a couple picks better than the Jets 3. Idzik could have overcome the bad draft with one or two trades and some veteran signs, it was his neutrality that doomed him. 4. Idzik might have survived at another team. Wrong city. Wrong fans.
He signed free agents. What about Breno, Johnson, Ivory (trade), Vick, Decker. Plus he re-signed Jets players who were free agents like Pace, Cumberland, Simms. And what about Harvin. As for bad draft picks. Right now it looks like the worst one is Geno
What has he really done wrong?Here's the list below of his first two years The Bad Drafted Dee Millner in the first round-horrible pick Drafted Geno Smith-a complete joke Drafted Calvin Pryor first round-has had zero impact on anything Jets related this season Had 21 mill in cap space left and signed no one to play cornerback except.... Signed Dimitri Patterson CB-Went Awol and was never seen wearing a Jets jersey again Signed Mike Goodson-arrested on drug charges made zero impact Signed Kelen Winslow-Ped suspension,jerked off in parking lot Signed Jacoby Ford /Josh Cribbs-made zero impact Out of 12 draft picks this past draft only 2 are on the active roster Traded Revis even though it was forced on him he should have made a case to keep him,we could have still drafted Sheldon with the num 9 pick and still had Revis Gave Eric Decker a big contract he really doesn't deserve ,he is not a num 1 WR He also seems to have a thing for injury prone guys who come with little risk but never pan out The Good Drafted Jace Amaro in round 2 ,he looks promising Traded for Ivory Traded for Harvin(looks like a good move as of now) Drafted Sheldon (lay up from Revis trade,probably Rexs pick anyway)
Yes, let him finish gutting the roster so we can go 0-fer next year, and get JT Barrett to come out early.....
Decker got fair market value probably could've held out for more $ This year's rounds 3-7 look horrible now but if Amaro and Pryor are starting 5 years from now it won't go down as the worst draft ever. Nabbing a 1st rounder that got turned into DROY Sheldon for the Bucs to rent Revis for one year and to rehab his knee in Tampa sounds good to me..I think you take the Dee pick too personally because you wish it would be Revis instead..Yeah me too, but we weren't getting a deal done for Revis a the time..so Idzik goes out and makes his best move as a GM and gets 13th overall pick for an aging CB which does not happen in today's NFL and we get mad at him for it? Bashing the Gates, Ford, Winslow, Godson moves are just ridiculous. Every team in the NFL brings guys in that don't work out every year. Each guy cost us barely anything and we moved on from them..Good teams don't rely on players like that but Idzik got handed a team with Zero Depth. Expecting Patterson to replace Cromartie was one of Idzik's biggest misses, and cost this team maybe the most out of anything else this year. I do believe we had a deal in place with Vontae Davis but he burned us last minute because he wanted to stay in Indy..from there Idzik didn't want to pony up big money for Verner or DRC or anyone else he didn't see worth the $. His biggest mistake is thinking he had the job security to lay out a long rebuild in New York..This media will eat you alive if the team isn't producing right away. We have every reason to be optimistic about this team going forward but we let that early season murders row schedule defeat us and demand a fresh cleaning of house,while the house is still being cleaned. I say one more year Idzik and if there's not at least 2-3 game improvement can him..but New Yorkers like the Idiots responsible for the billboard will run him out first.
I haven't seen a lot of "members of the press actively encouraging his dismissal;" I assume you mean columnists voicing their opinion but I haven't seen any of those. What the cited article shows is objective facts and they show Idzik's first two seasons as bad as only a handful of the GM's studied, the exact record for comparison awaiting the next six games. In the driver's seat, I'd probably give him another season to see if he can right the ship. Unfortunately I fear it would be further exposed as a ship of fools.
Just a rookie GM that really doesn't have a clue whats going on but carries himself as if he's an old jedi Yoda of the GM game.. The jig is up.. we're not buying it. Old "build through the draft but i forgot i never knew anything about drafting" ass. Why did Woody even hire this guy? He set Idzik up as much as Idzik set rex up to fail in the big apple if you ask me. This has just been another episode in the circus act.
Well Mehta for one. Then you can go to Rich Cimini. I'm sure there are more. Both guys who dislike Idzik because he doesn't give them any copy. And killed him on that press conference. I agree the Jets GM should be able to work with the press. But these guys almost make it impossible to cooperate.
Plenty of Superbowl winning regimes had absolutely shitty records. You can look at it in terms of how a lot of them won the Superbowls after drafting blue chip QBs with VERY high picks, which obviously means they were terrible the previous season. As someone already pointed out, Colts were the worst team in the league the year they drafted Peyton, and they were also the worst team in the league the year they drafted Luck, who might very well go on to win more Superbowls with them down the line. The Giants were a terrible team the year they got Eli (they had 4th overall pick they used to draft Rivers and trade for Eli, and finished that year 4-12), and they won 2 Superbowls now. Green Bay was mentioned already. Do you realize how ironic and bad this sounds? So Idzik has put us in a great position in the upcoming season by clearing our cap, and bringing in a bunch of nice young players on nice contracts (Richardson, Decker, Harvin, Amaro, Ivory, Aboushi, Bohannon, whoever else might develop in the future) to build around, and now you want to fire him before he can complete the plan so someone else gets the credit for it? Brilliant...
Who cares about the local media? If I was Woody, I would feed them prank stories for a while, and when they wised up to it, tell them to go fuck themselves. If he wants to win a Superbowl, he needs to not listen to them ever, and let Idzik (or whoever follows him if he doesn't get it done in 3-4 years) rebuild properly.
