i do not understand any of the brady quinn talk. clearly the issue that was brought up was for a VETERAN qb to come in and compete with clemens for the starting job next year, if it isnt chad. brady quinn doesnt quite qualify as a veteran.
I am not sure if KC would have won any of those games with what we have seen so far, as bad as the team was, CP has them in a position to win all but 1 game. CP's injury was brushed to the side, no one really thought about how it affected his performance especially late in games.
What affected his performance late in games was that our defense couldn't stop anyone and the offense spent most of the second half of games on the sidelines. Then we'd get one last chance with no timeouts and have to execute everything perfectly, which we couldn't do. Same goes for the game Clemens played at Baltimore, by the way. I don't think the injury helped but I don't think it was a big deal. Pennington is a guy who won a playoff game on the road with his arm falling off, I doubt an ankle was going to affect him that much. Regarding next year, I don't see the point of getting rid of a veteran QB who is an offense captain and has been a team leader and then having to go looking through the scrap heap for another veteran QB. That doesn't make much sense. If the said veteran is going to have a chance to compete with Clemens for the job and Chad is looking to compete for a job, I'm sure they can work out the contract. They've done it once before and that was when they didn't know if he could even play anymore.
I'd like to bring in some veteran backup for Kellen, but I want to bring in a smart, seasoned QB who he can learn from... I don't want it to be Chad, because as long as Chad's around, the papers and the fans are going to question whether or not Chad should get a chance to start again... That can't be good for Kellen's confidence.... I'd like a Brad Johnson-type QB to be there... Not Grossman or Culpepper... You kidding me?
My thoughts exactly. The Jets may well need to draft a 2nd to 4th round QB to come in and compete with Clemens. It would fit with the general rebuilding process, since they could be teaching the new guy the offense while they are continuing to evaluate Clemens next season. God I hope the Jets aren't stupid enough to try to take a washed-up veteran and make him the "QB of the future", cuz there's no future in that.
I really think they would be wasting a pick for that unless the Jets really land big in FA to address a lot of our other needs. Elevate Tui to #2 and pick up a credible 3rd stringer somewhere. I don't think we have to react any more than that. Or even, make Brad Smith our 3rd QB on paper. That to me makes sense. Once you have to go to your #2 QB, your season is usually in serious jeopardy anyway.
Not if Clemens steps up and shows he's the guy. When Pennington took the job he left no doubt, Vinny was around for another season and 3/4 and there was no problem.
Here I go stepping on the bear trap! How about Donavan Mcnabb? Isn?t he set to become a free agent? I mentioned this back a while and got creamed for it. I know there?s Injury issue or concerns but what do you think Our Offense would be like with him. He's got the arm! He's got the touch pass. He's still elusive. Just a thought.
Man, this league is getting tough on QB's. You have less than half a season to prove yourself or the team is moving on. At least the media says you should. Give the kid a chance. A full offseason as the number one, shore up that oline, and give him a chance with a full complement of healthy players. Not a guy with a bum ankle, another with a broken finger, crappy line play, ect.
Chad was a problem because he could not keep defenses honest. Its a fact of the game. And honestly, no QB would do that great with the brain dead offense schemes we run. Lets blame the coaches before we blame the players. I still feel like we have not seen the true KC.
Thats a good point . I remember when we sent recievers all over the field and low and behold someone was open for a deep gainer. Now everything is short and shallow and every reciever seems to be blancketed by a defender so its either a jump ball or a batted ball.
So why don't they open it up now that they have a rocket-armed QB in there? It's hard to keep blaming Chad now that he isn't playing, although you guys keep trying.
Not by me. It's the point I have been making. Maybe by my recent posts you think i have the hate on for Ole Noodle arm, I don't. I am a nig Chad fan, but the mishandling of the situation, has put Clemens development at the forefront, leaving us with the toothpaste out of the tube.
I am blaming our offensive scheme which clearly sucks. I loved Chad but he is not what he used to be.
Do you just have the Pennington-ankle injury post in a word document that you cut-and-paste into every thread? Pennington, doesn't throw with his legs like most quarterbacks anyway. Yes, the ankle may have impacted his performance, but his poor decision-making can't be blamed on a bum ankle.
No no my freind . Chad Pennington is done . Yes he is to blame for this years mess! "The NFL has his number" Playing against Chad Pennington from any spot of the feild is like Defending the End zone! Everything is condensed and in front of the defenders. Id agree a little more if Chad was being blasted all over the field due to bad protection , but that wasnt the case . He will probally get some playing time with another team and you will see the same kinds of Picks that occured with the Jets. I will conceed that the lack of a running game left him open to critism but thats the nature of the game. He is (Or was ) the leader. Other QB's have done better with less but now we know he's not the kind of QB.
I'm talking about since the QB change. I've seen everything on here from "they're using Chad's playbook" to "the WRs are dropping balls because Chad threw too softly", that kind of thing. If you want to blame Chad for a few bad games and discount three playoff seasons, that's up to you. But now that Clemens is playing and we're still kicking FGs and losing, you guys need to blame someone else. Now suddenly the line sucks, the coaching sucks and the WRs suck. Two months ago Chad only had passing yards at all because our WRs were so great running after the catch, now they suck. You can't have it both ways.
its practically impossible to judge our qb's performance with this OC calling the worst plays out there. When we beat pittsburgh we had brad smith run an option for about 8 yards and a flea flicker for a 50 something yard gain. All we do is run,run, incomplete pass every single series. mangini could call the offensive plays and we would probably have similar success. Lets just draft mcfadden and run the wild hog offense...that would at least open up the playcalling lol
Two months ago Coles and Cotchery were both playing full time. Coles hasn't been the same since the concussion he got in Chad's last start. Isn't it amazing how Chad and concussion seem to come up together in the same sentence so often and yet he's never had one? Two months ago EVERYBODY was screaming about how bad the Jet's offensive line was. But most importantly, two months ago the Jets were playing with no life at all on offense after halftime. The defense was also giving up the ghost regularly, because that's what happens when the offense just shuts down at key points in the game regularly. Since Clemens began starting all of the following are true: 1. The team is giving a full 60 minutes effort on both sides of the ball. 2. The Jets have come back repeatedly to challenge at the end of games and have actually won twice as many games as Chad's Jets did. 3. The coaching errors on offense have become more apparent because the Jets are actually in a position to win games more often late and Chad is not killing those opportunities by throwing pick-6's like clockwork in the 4th quarter. I'm not happy with where the Jets are right now, but they are hella more entertaining to watch than they were when I knew they would lose at halftime regardless of what the score was.
