Joe McKnight appears as if he's finally ready to contribute.

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  1. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    A big mistake is letting Adrien Clarke play Left Guard.

    Letting go a 3rd down back who gets 10 touches a game in the Kevin Faulk package is not a big mistake, its a small mistake.

    Vernon Gholston was a big mistake. I had him 3rd on my wishlist behind Matt Ryan (who I'd still take over Sanchez, I loved Matt Ryan as a Jet) and Chris Long. Wrong about that one.

    But there is still a common ground both sides don't see to want to step into:

    Woodhead would have a smaller role on the Jets than he does on the Pats if he were here. The pats gain everything and lose nothing from picking him up, but the Jets have not lost big and gained nothing by letting him go.

    As for McKnight, I'm patient enough to understand a 4th rounder who was drafted to not replace anyone, but to fill the 3rd RB spot, might actually take time to develop in this league. Fuck his USC tag and the misnomer about him being the next Reggie Bush. I'm educated enough about the prospect to know I might have to wait until he grows in this league. Same with Sanchez - fuck his USC tag, he has to grow in this league and its going to take a while. Its called the big picture. LT replaced Leon.

    And its funny how you never changed your opinion on Sanchez until he grew into his own, when posters like myself sat back, understood the situation and simply waited, understanding what was coming after a little patience. I'm doing the same with McKnight.
     
  2. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    But he wouldn't even have been active until the time that McKnight was. We aren't running the ball as much this year either. The only time Woodhead really got touches last season was when we had big leads.

    I certainly would be less worried with Woodhead carrying the ball over what I've seen from McKnight so far, but I don't think he'd be taking many carries from LT & Greene in tight games - especially when the load on them isn't as much as the load on last years RB's.
     
  3. ace_o_spades

    ace_o_spades New Member

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    Joe got garbage time carries vs. the Bills. Idk why he didn't get any vs. the Bengals
     
  4. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    I don't have Chrebet Syndrome, so I'm a hater.
     
  5. NDmick

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    hmmm, both posts have the phrase "big picture" in them.... fascinating.
     
  6. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    I think everyone that isn't part of the bash Joe McKnight cult:rolleyes:, yet another extreme introduced by someone, has said at one point or another that it would be great to still have Woodhead on the team. If an NFL roster had 55 open spots I would be right there with you guys in outrage for letting him go.

    The fact remains that Woodhead is nothing more than a nice role player who has found himself in advantageous position. He is playing with arguably the best QB in the league over the last decade, something that is making him look even better than he is. Even if the Jets had set him up to play the same role here as he does with the Pats do we really think that he gets on the field over LT on a third down? More importantly, do we really think that Sanchez would be making him look like he does with the Pats?
     
  7. Italian Seafood

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    I don't think anyone is saying he'd have the same impact here for the reasons you just stated.

    Also, speaking for myself, "outrage" is way too strong a word. "Outrage" was watching Jeff Blake and Terrance Mathis make the Pro Bowl when we were going 3-13 with an awful team, this is really just discussion in my opinion. I had a good feeling that he could be a player when he initially made our roster and I made the thread comparing him to Chrebet, so it's disappointing for me how it's turned out in that sense. All relative, of course, because we're 9-2.
     
  8. SixFeetDeep

    SixFeetDeep Red Hot Robbie Cano

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    we'd be 10-0 if we kept woodhead
     
  9. Milliner is your Mommy

    Milliner is your Mommy Well-Known Member

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    You can still call him the next Reggie Bush. Reggie did not play well for his first couple seasons.
     
  10. All Gas No Shake

    All Gas No Shake Well-Known Member

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    i dont know and it doesnt matter. that proves nothing about how hes been practicing and his performance in garbage time proves very little, as well

    as i explained to you earlier leon got hurt so that role went to woodhead. he did not get those looks when leon was active ... if LT were to get hurt, then im sure mcknight would be afforded the same opportunities that woodhead was
     
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    All Gas No Shake Well-Known Member

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    they made it to the nfc championship game in his rookie year and he was a huge part of that offense
     
  12. NDmick

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    No one is the next Reggie Bush.

    Its an unfair comparison to McKnight. He's a different player and no one has the athleticism that Bush has.
     
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    "Outrage".... typical over reaction from the people I'd expect it from. Disappointed, yes, outraged, not hardly. This is typical of discussions here. Someone says something, it gets blown into outrage, just so one can try to discredit another with a different opinion.

    This regime has made almost no mistakes personnel wise. Woodhead was about the only mistake, and while it wasn't like the Bosox trading Babe Ruth, still, it was a mistake.

    I will continue to take the position that Woodehad could have been just as big a part of this team that he has become with NE. He simply was not used correctly or enough. If the Patriots can make him a key part of their offense, the Jets could have done the same. It's about the fact that Woodhead does have a rather unique talent set.

    And I think I will go with Rex Ryan on this one.... it was a mistake to release him. You want to disagree with Ryan, go ahead. I'm sure you know better than our HC.
     
  14. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    I typed outrage without thinking about it. Other than that word I think most would agree my post was pretty reasonable. Keep acting like only one side of this is taking it too extreme's if it makes you feel better though. I guess I wouldn't understand since I'm part of that weird cult.
     
  15. MBGreen

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    Ryan also said he should've put his wife on waivers ......guess we should believe that too. :rolleyes:


    Ryan obviously respects Woodhead....and that's all that was...he was showing respect. If he thought Woodhead was that integral to this roster...he wouldn't have cut him.
     
  16. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    I always find ignoring context to be one of the funnier attempts at making an argument.
     
  17. MBGreen

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    no shit eh.


    if Rex thought it was such a huge mistake...i'm sure our won/loss record would reflect it. :smile:
     
  18. NDmick

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    Rex also alludes to Woodhead taking over the Kevin Faulk role in yesterday's press conference.

    I read between the lines - Rex basically said they are the same fucking player.
     
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    Is this argument seriously still going on?
     
  20. NDmick

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    No. I hope I ended it.
     

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