I don't care if the Jets moves to New York, California, The Cayman Islands, or the Moon. As long as we are away from the Fiants, I'm good.
You guys need to get over this inferiority complex. Winning cures everything. Look at the Mets of the mid-80's. The Jets' second class status is nothing compared to the Mets'. During the Mets' 80's run, they were THE TEAM in NY. Our day will come. DbJ
Excuse me..but by your name I assume you are in FLORIDA. So how did you get screwed out of anything? You people need to lighten up. You make it sound that they built the Berlin Wall on the George Washington Bridge. Take a car ride..see a game..big freakin' deal.! I wish you are were more upset about what's happening at the US/Mexican border instead of the NY/NJ border.
How far is Florham Park from the stadium? And ya it is BS that the Giants get to have their facility at the stadium.
Florham park, without traffic, is about 25-30 minutes from the stadium. It's not BS the Giants get to have their facility there. The Jets had the option too and declined.
you guys are getting really lame with this argument. This was the best economic decision for both the teams, AND for the area. Spending 2 billion dollars on a stadium in Manhattan and then 1 billion for a stadium in NJ was just plain stupid. I don't care where the darn thing is located, but since it's going to be fieldturf anyway, there is no harm in joint ownership. Whether it was the Manhattan location, a Queens location, or the NJ location, I couldn't care less.
If people really want take action, stop buying Dolan's product. He's the villain. Not only did he sabotage the Jets Stadium efforts, he's destroyed the Knicks and made them unwatchable.
The Jets chose this option, probably for a lot of very obvious reasons. Being that you're from Florida, I need to ask you: have you ever been to the Meadowlands? At any time of year? If you have, you'll know why a training facility in the Meadowlands is a lousy decision. First off, the wind never stops in the Meadowlands. There's nothing to block it, so in winter, you get the northwest winds that never blow less than 20 mph, constantly. The windchill factor right there is always 15 degrees colder than the air temperature. In summer, the same, hot, stifling, unobstructed wind carries ragweed pollen and other airborne congestants from the millions of reeds and punks in the area. I'm sure Flonase and other decongestion products would find the Meadowlands an unbeatable proving ground for their products. There's nothing pretty about the Meadowlands except for the NYC skyline, but even that is marred because of the NJ Turnpike, the toll booths and all the overpasses in the foreground. This will get even worse after the construction of the Xanadu project, which will probably all but eliminate the skyline view. Then there's the constant drone from the Turnpike and it's tributaries, which will get worse also. All you hear in the background is the scream of the 18-wheelers. There is nothing, and I emphasize NOTHING else to look at in the Meadowlands, other than the aforementioned, that can be described as "scenary." In fact, the swamps are downright ugly. Approaches to the stadium are littered with windblown papers and other debris along the sides of the road. Need an extra used tire or two? You'll get lucky there. I suspect Tony Sopranos boys have probably even gotten rid of a body or two over there. And why wouldn't they? Nobody goes there for any other reason other than to go to a game! The Jets are moving to a beautiful section of NJ which is currently mostly woods. It can't be more than a 20 minute, police-escorted bus ride to the new stadium site. The Jets are getting 20 beautiful acres with the possibility of expansion even, as The Star-Ledger has pointed out, because the property surrounding the Jets is also undeveloped. It's a well secluded parcel, off the main thoroughfair, and far from the noise of truck traffic and the like. It'll truly be a park-like setting. Comparing this property to the Giants' Meadowlands property is to compare a chocolate eclair to a turd. So, let the Giants keep their training facitlity in the Meadowlands. The Jets got the best end of this deal, by far.
exactly, wouldnt we want more separation from the giants after having to share yet another stadium? how messy would it be to have two sets of NFL staffs, personnel, and fans in one area. not to mention after the brawl before the season last yr haha poor shockey
If he is in Florida he would be more worried about the the Florida/Cuba border but what the hell does that have to do with football?
It has to do with incessant whining about this issue. They have played in NJ for 20 YEARS..Now your bitchin' about where they PRACTICE? get over it. You make it sound like you need a passport to get into NJ. If you don't want to go..give up your tickets. If you want to go..then just go.
I'm not from florida, I live in florida...I'm from New Jersey. My earliest memories of the Meadowlands are my grandfather taking me to the track to bet on horses from the age of 6. Concerts, the circus, the icecapades at the arena. Jets and Rutgers football at the stadium. Yeah, I've been there. The Giants have a bubble there, so I figured we'd do the same. Now, if it really was the Jets choice to be separated, then that's cool, otherwise its BS.
If your "earliest memories" of the Meadowlands are the race track, concerts and icecapades, then I'm probably older than you. My earliest memories of the Meadowlands go back to the days when there was absolutely nothing there except slaughterhouses... and we called it "Secaucus, NJ," and they slaughtered pigs there for market. And it stunk to high hell when you drove through it, because of the slaughterhouses. I made my dad pull over on the NJ Turnpike on the way home from a Cape Cod vacation on one hot, summer afternoon... this was around 1957... had to be about 95 degrees out there... and you had to hold your nose, the stink was so bad. Nothing around but water and punks and the smell of the slaughterhouses. "Secaucus" was what it was called. A huge, vast wasteland. Unbuildable in fact, or so everyone thought, until somebody decided to "develope" the area and remove the wretched slaughterhouses. They still had to contend with the area being below water table, so they had to bring in fill to build anything... anything at all. Even roadways are unbuildable unless you bring in enough fill. The entire area is below sea level. Even with fill, it was still unpalatable, so they had to market some new, catchy name, something other than "Secaucus" because of it's reputation. So someone cleverly came up with a name that sounds benign... soothing... actually quite environmental... and so the name "Meadowlands" was born. Sounds wonderful, no? Well, it's not a "meadow." A meadow is a higher plane and exhibits grassy areas and flowers and trees and wildlife and supports the grazing of horses and the like. A meadow is a beautiful thing. And it's not really "land" either, when you think about it. It's more under water than above water. But creators of clever, catchy, marketable names always seem to get by with pleasant-sounding names like "The Meadowlands," so much so that you could probably market a turd in plastic wrapper so long as you sold it under the name "fragrant chocolate eclair." It would sell, believe me, just look what it did for Secauscus. No matter how the Giants want to boast about their new training facility in the "Meadowlands," to me it'll always be the Secaucus, NJ swamplands, a worthless, submerged, wind-blown, stinking pile of parrot droppings. I go there for the games because once inside, I don't have to look at the "scenery," don't have to put up with the wind and don't have to listen to the drone of 18-wheelers. But make no mistake, the Giants are downright STUPID for choosing "The Meadowlands" over the serenity and beauty of what the Jets are moving into. Meadowlands my ass.
It wasn't us "dimwits" who turned down the stadium. It was exactly TWO politicians, under pressure by supposed "community groups" purported to represent the general public in the surrounding neighborhood, but who were actually fronts for Cablevision's interests. But who cares about the reality of the situation when you live in Jersey right?
Here's the thing. NYC is the financial center of the country, and quite arguably, the world. It has been for a VERY long time. The thing is, something that happened on a sunny September day a few years ago did much to hurt the economy of this great city. Ever since, we have been trying to rebuild it. But people from CT and NJ don't give a damn. No offense, but the "tri-state" has been nothing more than two states bottom feeding off of our created opportunities. The WSS was a huge centerpiece for the rebuilding of this city. It could have given us a chance to hold the Olympic games, creating loads of revenue. It WOULD have provided the city with a Super Bowl. It also would have provided a venue for numerous other events during the year, creating revenue for this city. Now if that opportunity was ripped from your hands, you would be pissed off too. Then we talk about the practice facility. The Jets have been at Hofstra for a long time. Just having them there provided income to the area. Restaurants, housing, shopping. All of those things will now lose their solid yearly customers. But who cares right? It isn't the problem of CT or NJ, so it's of no concern. It would be nice if instead of arguing about stopping Mexicans from crossing the US border, Manhattan stopped the migrants from crossing over from NJ and CT, making moeny in OUR city, and taking it home to their states to spend. Then we could see who would be crying FOUL.
Alio, you are so far off base with this post it's ridiculous. Many lives were lost on 9/11. And many of those were from NJ or CT. For you to say we don't give a damn is simply an outrage. Furthermore, your assessment of "the migrants" who work in the city who cross over from NJ and CT, make money in YOUR city, and then "take it home to their states to spend" is just not economic fact. For your information, people from NJ who work in the city spend a lot of money in the city and have to pay income tax to NY, just like you do. So, for a NJ worker in Manhatten, for example, a return must be filed not only with the fed and the state of NJ, but with NY as well. I find your above tirade extremely myopic and protectionist to the point of ludacracy, not to mention how insulting it is to mention 9/11 and then claim people from NJ and CT "don't give a damn." Does your anger know no bounds? Putting the blame on NJ and CT for YOUR failure to bring about the WSS? How simplistic and misguided! Blame yourself, Alio, for electing the idiots who let the Jets slip away. Stop beating up NJ and CT for your failure to take an active role in electing politicians who will serve your interests.
