I only argue that statement cause either one of those catches could have changed the momentum of the drive. The Jets failed on all their drives to put points on the board but both the INTs had taken the wind out of the sails or threw the rhythm off. The Keller-INT drive could have led to points.
How can we be so sure they didnt cost us the game? They were two drive killers and one i believe lead to points for the Pack. If the Jets cash in on these drives, they may win the game. These blown calls were critical and ive watched the replay a ton of times and i still cant understand how this douchebag is defending the replay system on this one. Cothery clearly had the ball in his mid section as he want to the ground and as he was on the ground, its pulled out. Even if it was a tie, it goes to the receiver. This crap has got be changed because it really shafted us.
The point is that we don't know what would have happened even if those calls weren't made. You don't know the Jets would have scored on those drives and even if they had it would have changed the way GB played. The calls were bad but we had plenty of time and opportunity to make up for them.
My favorite question was the last one. If possession goes to the receiver on a tie and you can't review it because they shared possession, then why is defense given possession? Because that was the original call. Only in the NFL :rofl:
That literally makes no sense and completely goes against the leauges "tie goes to receiver" rule. I didnt expect this guy to slam the refereers but some of the stuff he was saying didnt really make much sense to anyone but himself. You can tell Rich Eisen is like "whatttt" in a few of his answers. Youre right though, only in the NFL......
The guy seemed to be ignoring the fact the survival of the fittest element wasn't decided at the point the receiver was down by contact at which point you could rule simultaneous possession.
Wow...Rich Eisen sure as hell looked upset about the call. And now that I think about it, the officials were too busy sucking a dick when Rex challenged the play. On one hand, these fuckers say the dual possession is not reviewable. Then on the other hand, they say ok, we'd still let u challenge it. How the fuck did they fuck this up? If they went to the replay booth, its fucking reviewable.
This is a load of junk! We had momentum on both drives. We gained 98 yards on 21 plays combined and 7 first downs while reaching GB territory on both of the possessions. Both the turnovers gave Green Bay a chance to kick FGs and they converted 1 of 2. If these aren't ruled ints, we get a chance to kick the FG instead of GB. Instead of the game being 6-0, it would be 3-3. With 4:12 to go, we no longer need to go for it on 4th down. We can try a 50 yard FG to take the lead. We no longer would need to go for it on 4th down from our own 22, where GB took over to kick the last FG. Without these calls, we win. Of course, either one of the calls would change everything that followed, but with what we can see and reasonably predict, we win this game.
That's a load of horseshit. Why would you say we can reasonably assume we'd score if those calls weren't made? Based on what? Because if you base it on the rest of the game there's no evidence to suggest we'd get in the endzone or make a FG attempt. The calls were shitty, but we had ample time and opportunity to make up for them.
Problem with this line of thinking is that you are assuming the Jets don't do something else to screw it up. Who is to say that Sanchez doesn't throw a real INT on the next play? Or more likely, that someone gets called for a penalty and kills the drive? The calls were bad but the Jets only needed one TD for much of the game to win. They had many other chances that they screwed up without the help of the refs.
This was the first time I've ever heard this "survival of the fittest" bullshit. If you wanna put it that way, fine. But how that took precedence over dual-possession is still beyond me. Lesson learned all around, because Jaco didn't look like he knew what the hell that meant either. He even admitted he let up his grip once he thought he was down. That won't happen again. From now on they hold that shit like it's their first born until the ref has to follow them to the locker room to get it back.
As they should have been before this game. It is better to learn that lesson in week 8 as opposed to in the playoffs though.
We should be able to examine the performance of the zebras separate from the performance of the Jets. Even if the Jets had won that game those calls were F'd up.
Agreed. I don't think anyone can say the refs lost the game for the Jets though. I'm all about calling out the shitty calls refs make. I just think it's lame to blame them for losses.
i never blame the refs for a loss. but they shure haven't helped us. honestly it was a pretty good called game. other then a bad hold on pace on one run play and the two "INTs" i didn't see any other bad calls either way
