Jets Receivers and Drops

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  1. Milliner is your Mommy

    Milliner is your Mommy Well-Known Member

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    I read 2 drops on Holmes 3 more that were nullified because of penalties. The horrible drop pass where Ike Taylor got called on the most BS pass interference.
     
  2. TheBlairThomasFumble

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    Absolute truth. Holmes is not a #1.
     
  3. catfish

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    rechecked just to make sure, but it is only 1 Vs Ike Taylor. They wouldn't count the ones that are penalized. It is a pretty blurry line between dropped and defensed anyway it could easily have been 2 with one being borderline, but still not 9 or whatever is getting kicked around. Are there passes that could have been caught, absolutely, but drops are a whole nother thing
     
  4. Milliner is your Mommy

    Milliner is your Mommy Well-Known Member

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    9 is total drops for the game not just on Santonio. Hill had 1 or 2. Cumberland had 1 or 2. Not sure about Kerley. Still some of those passes that might not have been classified as drops were still catchable passes. Your our number 1 you should make those. The 1 in the endzone in I think the 4th quarter should have been caught.
     
  5. catfish

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    PFF had 1 total for the whole game, it was on Santonio Vs Ike Taylor

    should have been caught and dropped are two different things
     
  6. Milliner is your Mommy

    Milliner is your Mommy Well-Known Member

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    If you drop a pass and they call a penalty they don't call it a drop. What statistically counts as a drop and what people here consider a drop are 2 different things.
     
  7. catfish

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    true, that is all I was pointing out. If a receiver drew a call for PI you assume there was a reason the ball hit the ground. The fact that concerns me is that th DB's were close enough to defend that many passes. Drops can go away, lack of seperation rarely does
     
  8. Jets n Boys

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    I should probably reword part of my OP. Some of the drops that I counted were indeed passes defensed. However, I count a dropped pass being one that hits you in the hands fair and square. If a defender then knocks it away, its a drop. Its the receivers job to keep a tight hold on that football, and get it in fast. Grabbing the ball at its highest position is another way to reduce or eliminate pass defensed.

    Considering that there are always drops in a game, I threw a figure of 6 catches out of the 9. That's a fair number. Hill drop is on Hill. He should have jumped up for the ball. Kerley drop was right in his face mask. Cumberland drop won't go down as a drop on the stat sheet, but thats a play he's gotta make. Holmes had two very easy completions dropped. Thats 5 simple catches right there. Holmes also had FOUR other passes he could have hauled in, including couple of PI calls.
     
  9. Milliner is your Mommy

    Milliner is your Mommy Well-Known Member

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    Yeah basically it was 9 plays where the receiver didn't do his job. Receivers are paid to make those types of plays and if Sanchez puts it in a spot where you can catch then you almost always have to catch it. 9 is way way way too many. If it was 5 instead of 9 thats still not good but thats 4 more completions for Sanchez which could have helped kept drives alive and put more points on the board.
     
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    Some people seem to be counting pass defenses as drops here.
     
  11. Jets n Boys

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    There are two types of pass defensed.

    One is where the defenders knocks away the ball before it gets to the receiver, kinda like Revis does on most occasions. This is where the receiver doesn't have much control of the situation (besides being physical, which none of our WRs are). This is not a drop by any means.

    Second is where the receiver catches the ball but the defender knocks it out of his hands just before the receiver can bring it in with full control. This is what I counted as a drop. Its the receivers job to make that catch since the ball was delivered where the receiver had control over it, especially since you are getting paid to make such catches ($10mil is no joke).
     
  12. Jets n Boys

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    And the one time that fucker did make a tough catch, he couldn't bring down his second foot in time...and I didn't even count that as a drop simply because the receiver caught the pass, just not in bounds. Thats a catch Santonio will complete 9 out of 10 times. Its the easier passes with more physical coverage that he drops.
     
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    LOL at 9 drops

    Our WR are terrible
     
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    He started sailing the ball in the 4th, but before that he was throwing actually really well and was screwed over by his receivers. He got rattled.
     
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    You would need to know the call in the huddle. That play reminded me of a play many years ago when Namath hit Matt Snell right in the rear. Overall, I thoght Sanchez did OK, with the drops being a big problem, as well as getting hit several times.
     
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    You have my respect, I couldn't watch that shit show again if you paid me.
     
  17. Demosthenes9

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    On that Hill "drop", he did go up for the ball. Clark was there early a. X push/pulled Hills right arm, preventing him from catching the ball. Basically, Clark did what Cro didn't do.

    You can call it PI on Clark, or just good defense if so inclined, but it wasn't a "drop" by Hill

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  18. Jets n Boys

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    Clark hit him a split second before the ball came down. Too close to call it PI, but it's not to count that against Sanchez. It was a Near perfect pass. Hill had a chance to bring it in. He didn't go up for the ball. Nit enough. He had a step on the receiver.
     

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