Jets Receivers and Drops

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  1. mrmahon

    mrmahon New Member

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    Sanchez panics sometimes, resulting in rushed throws when he really does NOT have to rush. As far as the drops, there are well too many. Of course there are going to be SOME but the amount we are getting per game is to high.
     
  2. SteelCurtain96

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    I don't see enough Jets preseason games or what not to form a good opinion, but I don't think you guys have a lot of talent at the WR position. Santonio Holmes excelled in a system here with other top notch WR's.

    He's not been the same since being traded to the Jets. He's certainly not a strong enough talent to be a number one guy.

    Until the Jets get that then I wouldn't expect miracles out of Sanchez. That's not knocking him.
     
  3. FJF

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    oki can see some of that,i think some of that was him pressing due to what was going on with the wr's.i'd say overall the team layed an egg.

    i put alot of that on rex.i love him as a coach but he seems to struggle keeping the team evenly keeled.they get a huge game to relieve the pressure around the team and then they struggle matching the intensity the next week.
     
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    at this point you are probably right. hill will be the key as to how this next few years go.if he can be the guy who torched the bills then he will be exactly what holmes needs.if he's the guy that got shutout today then leaning on holmes beating safety help is probably going to doom sanchez to mediocrity.only time will tell
     
  5. RobertTheJr

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    The problem is that Holmes is a #2. He has the ego of a #1. This team needs a true #1. If/when that happens, Holmes will want out. Holmes is a strategic issue.
     
  6. Jets n Boys

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    The pass was far more accurate than the one to Wallace on 3rd and 16 that resulted in a TD. Defender had no chance at making the catch, hence it's not a jump ball. Hill was the only guy that could have made the catch. All he had to do was grab the ball at it's highest position. Basic stuff for WRs yet they seldom do it. Megaton, R Moss and Larry Fitz are a few receivers that do it consistently.

    All I'm saying is, given the coverage on Hills, that was an excellent throw that probably could not have been thrown better. And it was 60 yards in the air.
     
  7. Jets n Boys

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    I attributed it to Cumberland. Even Simms said that Cumberland should have noted the blitzers and expected a quick release. If that was Keller, it probably would have hit him in the face mask n an incompletion.
     
  8. JetsKickAss

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    This talk that new receivers, or a good quality passing OC or HC will make a difference is total bull****.

    Look at SanFran. Alex Smith sucked for 6 years. Absolutely the pits. Only reason he stayed that long is he couldn't get a job elsewhere and no QB would play for SanFran.

    So what happens ? Jim Harbaugh comes in...brings in a new mindset...new WR's.....and....um.....oh.......umm...

    Eh, never mind.
     
  9. JetsKickAss

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    Excellent analysis......seen many Detroit games over the years from stopovers in Detroit and it seems every game CJ catches 1-2 passes over his head with his HANDS only...and another 2-3 high up.
     
  10. Jets n Boys

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    Absolutely. Megatron is a beast and no other receiver comes close to him. He alone makes Stafford look like God back there, not that Stafford is bad. Im a huge fan of Megatron. He has some rare abilities. All those first round WR busts paid off for the Lions.
     
  11. Jets n Boys

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    Drops are part of the game, but 9 drops is a ridiculous amount. It should be closer to 2-3 drops a game. Sanchez had about 3 drops against the Bills as well, but nobody on this board brought that up. 3 is just about usual. Anything over 3 is where the blame should start to shift towards the receiving corps.
     
  12. Jets n Boys

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    I agree they weren't exactly easy catches (some were), but the throw wasn't bad. Some were tough. However, we didn't make a single tough catch and Steelers had at least 5 catches similar to the ones our receivers dropped, a few of them being on 3rd downs (3rd and long mostly).

    Holmes was pretty covered for the most part. But he had a few catches he should have caught with his eyes closed. Just bad anticipation and poor focus. I don't think we'll see such a game from the Jets receivers again though. We would still have the 2-3 drops a game, but nothing as bad as last weekend. Holmes needs to get his head out of his ass and not be a dick on the field. His body language is just awful. I hope we dump him after this year even if his salary is guaranteed (try to trade him for next to nothing). He's just a bad influence on Hill, who can be a promising receiver.
     
  13. CervezaVerde

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    I thought Sanchez looked OK despite the final numbers (I feel like a Tebow apologist here), but the Jets receivers were definitely struggling against physical coverage. A lot of the coverage I thought was holding and pass interference... although if that is the case, I would think Sanchez should probably choose another target.

    Far and away though, the biggest moment in the game was Kerley's muff. It was 20-10 and the Jets would have had good field position. If they could have marched it down and made the game 20-17, its a whole other story written everywhere. But that muff just ruined everything.
     
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    Which is why it's a really good time to bring Plaxico back. They don't even have to gaurantee his salary for the whole season now. He should be back in a Jets uniform and be ready for Week 4 in my opinion.
     
  15. ajax

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    The difference between success & failure is so small. Remember listening to old Parcells interview (when he was with Giants or Cowboys) and heard him say over 50% of the time when defense got just one penalty they also gave up points. Stat included just the 5-yard offsides & penalties that were turned down by offense. Bring that up because it's not surprising for me to now read thread stating one drop can be drive killer.

    Dropping passes in just week #2 can be overlooked. If it's a consistent pattern then OC needs to adjust. Perhaps they can eliminate certain pass routes which comprise most of the bad Sanchez/WR connections? Unfortunately the Jets can't make big scheme-wise changes.There's not a lot of experience talent on that side of the ball.
     
  16. displacedfan

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    So we had two receivers struggling to beat physical coverage and expand the field. So we are going to get someone who can't beat physical coverage and is useless outside the RZ to play where?
     
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    Cumberland should have the presence to know where the first down marker is and how many yards to go to get that first down. That's not on Sanchez at all. Awareness. 9 drops is unacceptable. If anything Sanchez should of told Cumberland "hey, 3rd down I'm going to be looking for you, be aware of the first down marker and be ready for the football."
     
  18. LeonNYJ

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    Pittsburgh was showing blitz, the players should be able to see this and be ready for the ball to come out quick. Cumberland wasn't prepared.
     
  19. catfish

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    profootballfocus.com counted 1 drop on Holmes, and that is it.

    They had Sanchez as a +.3
    Holmes as a -2.2


    without listing the rest

    Mangold, Slauson and Brick were signifigantly +

    Howard, Greene and conner were signifigantly -

    the rest fell within a +1 to -1 "average" range
     
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    the Hill drop, the defender moved his hand away at the last second. If not well defended, that would of been a TD.
     

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