Jets / Raiders thread...

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by Raiderjoe, Jun 9, 2008.

  1. winstonbiggs

    winstonbiggs 2008/2009 TGG Bill Parcells "Most Respected" Award

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  2. German Jets Fan

    German Jets Fan 2007 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    Revis played great against TO. And noone of the Raiders WRs is even close to the physical ability TO has. A Walker or Curry as a leadblocker doesn?t scare anyone, nomatter how big they are. Watch Hines Ward, and you?ll see that WR-blocking doesn?t have anything to do with size.
     
  3. Jmart

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    can we please stop comparing the Jets and Raiders. Its ignorant for people to even respond to raider joe. His explainations are obviously wrong, and he's just trying to get us Jets fans going. Russell may one day be a quality starter, but cmon people, we know he's not going to be Peyton Manning in his 2nd season, don't let this clown fire you up. He's uneducated on the game of football. Leave his comments be.
     
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    You will be 16-0 in two years
     
  5. jetbugga

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    f**k the per-raiders, have u seen your players on the field yet. we will destroy them and send you back till the next time we play.
     
  6. The Waterboy

    The Waterboy Well-Known Member

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    Russell has a TOTAL of 36 completions in his NFL career.
    To say that he is very accurate on the run is ridiculous at best.
    Of those 36 completions, 23 came in the second half of games when they were down and the opposing defense was probably playing soft coverage.
    Also where was this fastball last year. I would think that he would at least have more yards per completion than Chad if he has such an arm. But he didn't. I mean Brodie Croyle was the only quarterback in the league with a lower yard per completion.
    His completion percentage also scrapes the bottom of the barrel.
    Not to mention twice as many INT's as TD's.

    I am not even going to discuss Bush and McFadden since neither has touched the ball in an NFL game as of yet.
    If you are going to project what McFadden will do, I will just project the Gholston will tackle him for a loss every time he runs the ball and hammer him and knock the ball loose every time he catches a pass.

    Considering you were thinking the Raiders would take Gholston I can assume you think he is a great player, correct.

    On your 4th point. The stretch is only as good as the vision of your RB. If he does not see where the holes will develop then he will just be running into people. This is something that McFadden did alot in college and that is why he had so many fumbles. He does not see the holes. His speed covered for alot of his flaws in college but in the next level you need more than speed.
     
  7. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    October 19, 2008 - Until then, this is a non-argument.
     
  8. Duk Dodgers

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    :rofl:

    Good logic there.
     
  9. Jtuds

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    They will not be pounding the ball on the ground iwth their 3 WR sets, and we can make changes just like they can when personnell changes.

    Besides, don't think that every time a guy like McFadden goes out for a pass, he will cross the LOS untouched, he will get bumped and slammed so that the LBs can get in step.

    You think McFadden is the first fast RB? Leon Washington is a quick guy, as are many other, bigger RBs in the league.

    It's not nearly as cut and dried as you're making it. This may be the plan of attack against the Jets, but teams still have to execute it.
     
  10. savinoRB2

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    guarentee jevon walker gets hurt this year....hes as fragile as they come

    and joe, why do i keep reading about raiders reporting to camp overweight??

    thats why you guys will not be great until you get this team dedicated....
    the jets suck too but no doubt, were one of the hardest working teams in the league...

    why do talk like your so great.....you won 19 games in 5 years.....thats horrible

    besides the superbowl, you havent seen the playoffs and the superbowl was an embarrassment....

    mcfadden hasnt even played yet so stop acting like hes a star....will he be, most likely if he stays out of trouble

    oh and another reciever question.....ronald curry, Very underrated i agree but he gets hurt way to much to be a factor....how could he tool revis if he isnt on the field...

    oh right the raiders have telekentic powers right...


    haha what a tool:up:
     
  11. JetsLookingforDWare

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    The Raiders will rape us. We should just accept that fact and move on.

    Remember when they whooped our asses in '06 23-3? It'll be worse this time. They have McFadden (aka LT2...3?), Russell (Elway v2.0), Javon Walker (Rice/TO hybrid), Huff (Lott), Gallery (Steve Hutch. 2.0)...I don't even want to keep going...that franchise is loaded.

    I really hope Mangini just forfeits. It'll save us all a whole load of embarrassment.
     
  12. Raiderjoe

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    Oh we get it. You are nothing but a useless troll who knows less about football then you do about grammar. Your a joke. The best way to deal with you is to put you on ignore and hope you go away.


    A person who's here just to "rile up jet fans" is about as pathetic as they come.
     
  15. German Jets Fan

    German Jets Fan 2007 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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  16. MBGreen

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    Are you one of those deformities they dug out of Chernobyl after the blast went off? Because with some of this verbal sewage you're spewing...some of us are beginning to wonder if that "boat anchor" on top of your neck houses a brain or not.

    How can you sit there and compare Kiffin to Mangini? Kiffin doubled the Raiders win total to 4 in his first year, and he did a GREAT job?....dude, Mangini guided the Jets to a playoff birth in his first year....that's checkmate, right there. End of discussion.

    The Raiders have been absolute shit since 2002....the only thing Jamarcus Russell has shown us is that he has a talent for "contract holdouts"......McFadden has done NOTHING, so he shouldn't even be in the conversation. He's a prospect, not a proven commodity at this point.....Zach Miller??? wow, can't even comment there, other than he could be one of the "shinier" turds on the Raiders' roster....but who knows, and really, who cares.

    The bottom line Jeaux, strictly from an NFL standpoint...is that you don't have a leg to stand on. Your team hasn't made the playoffs since 2002..and hasn't won more than 5 games in a season in 3 or 4 years.....which is a nice way of saying...the Raiders are a steamy pile of shit.
     
  17. Raiderjoe

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    Again don't let facts get in your way. Russell didn't report till September. He missed all of training camp and preseason. So you really think thats the Russell yourgoing to see in 2008. Really immaterial what he put up last year. Again with a proven running game, Russell dosen't have to carry Raiders offense. Will only speed up his development.


    You can project all you want. I will just use this thread later to say how wrong you were.


    RBs is the easiest position to make transition from college to the progame. Now if Mcfaddedn was coming to the 32 ranked rushing offense, than maybe you could make a case, that he might struggle his rookie Year. The fact hes going to one of the best rushing offenses(6th) , tells me MCfadden going to take that rushing attack to the next level.

    I do like Gholston, think he has a chance to be a diffrence maker passrusher. With that said whether its C pace or B Thomas. ONe of them better step up as a passrusher, or Gholston going to see alot of double teams.


    Mcfadden vison is great. You don't put up all those yards in the tough sec without that vision. The truth on MCfadden fumbles is ONe, he fumbled alot on passes he was attempting to throw, and he had poor technique. Raiders RB coach Tom Rathman already corrected that problem. Look at Tiki Barber he too was fumbler. Tom Couglin fixes his hand placfement and Tiki suddenly hardly ever fumbles.
     
  18. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    Jeaux got his own thread.... congratulations.

    Let's discuss illogical Raider and Jet analysis for 8 pages.

    Jeaux needs a 10 minute spot on Fox NFL Sunday, to rant and rave about the Raiders and how he feels about the other 31 teams.

    Just Keep him away from Howie Long, he may try to sexually assault him.
     
  19. The Waterboy

    The Waterboy Well-Known Member

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    Please tell me which one of those players on the Raiders is a proven producer.
    It can't be Russel with only 36 career completions.
    It can't be McFadden or Bush who have zero NFL experience.
    Fargas is decent but certainly not a superstar.
    Griffith and Oneal nah.
    Miller 44 rec and a little over 400 yards last year, nothing eye popping.

    Where are the proven producers instead of your fantasies?
     
  20. MBGreen

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    i wonder if/when RaiderJeaux gets banned for his trolling ways....will BroncoJeaux or perhaps TexanJeaux show up at TGG.
     

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