uneasy about saying they are modeling Detroit, a franchise that was terrible for like 80 years. I'm not sure they even are with this arrangement. Most first time GMs hire former GMs to serve in advisory roles. You mentioned Detroit, but Tennessee is also doing it with Mike Borgonzi, he hired 2 former GMs, Douglas did it here with Phil Savage, the Commanders did it last year with Mayhew in an advisory role. That's 4 teams largely off the top of my head. It appears to be standard ops these days
Spielman most definitely did not hire Mougey, or anyone else. Until you understand precisely what an "advisor" or "consultant" is you should just refrain from commenting on things you do not comprehend. Feel free to have all the wild ass opinions, suspicions and theories you want but don't confuse them with reality or try to pass them off as such.
I also would not follow Detroit model, I would go Philly model and I have been saying that all long. Get their assistant GM with analytics background, who was with Roseman for dozen plus years, let him pick a coach, and they always pick offensive coach, and go from there. To be fair though, Detroit started this model only in 2020 when they hired Chris Spielman, and they did turn their fortunes almost immediately. Rick is essentially coming in the same role: like Chris, Rick helped get GM and Coach and continued in advisory capacity. The only difference is that Rick was an employee right away, while Chris was a consultant, converted to employee. But effectively it's the same. And in Detroit Holmes and Campbell run the show, and Spielman advises, which is exactly what Chris said will be done here with Mooge/AG. As far as Tennessee, they actually have a structure @NJJets is talking about. Borgonzi came as a GM, but they put Chad Brinker on top of him: "Chad is the leader of the football program, so Chad will be the final authority on all football matters, including the roster." But it's just not what our model is as explicitly stated by Rick himself. For better or worse, it is very similar to Detroit and to his brother there.
Disclaimer: I dont know who in the fuck this guy is. Twitter is a broken flaming cesspool these days so who knows what's real or fake. But I did see this guy reporting this Brett Hoffman on X: "The Jets have contacted the Titans to discuss the #1 pick in the NFL Draft to get Cam Ward. Potential Trade Package: Jets’ first-round pick (2025), second-round pick (2025), a first-round pick (2026), a second-round pick (2026) and another second-round pick (2027). https://t.co/VnNUVQz0J2" / X seems like an awful lot. but again, idk if its real
Of course, add the fact that NONE of the QB's, in this draft, are worth a top 5 pick and the QB question answers itself.
Let me ask this way: Is either QB, in this year's draft, Payton Manning or Andrew Luck or Patrick Mahomes reincarnate? If the answer to that is no then there is no way in holy hell you even SNIFF moving up in this draft. Not for, what I personally believe, are 2 QB's that aren't top 20 worthy.
I would immediately disown the team. My fandom would end on that deal. Seeing as "Twitter" is a piece of garbage, I'd error to your original point of the report being bullshit.
It's the spending of the draft capital. I'm still pretty adamant that neither of these kids would be top 10 picks in any other draft. Take last year, even Bo Nix would be considered "better than" both of these guys and he fell all the way to the teens. If the Jets decided to pick a QB they better do it round 2 or later. There are too many needs they can address with a better quality player at 7 and keeping any trade capital to pick other players on down in the draft. On top of that, yet again, they decided to go the ole' DC to HC route, again, so who would mentor and bring along a #1 QB draft pick? The organization certainly doesn't have a history of doing so. Both Sanders and Ward are not "pro ready," have plenty of "warts" and would require time. None of which the Jets have.
idk I think Ward and Sanders both would’ve slotted in ahead of Bo Nix, that was a pretty shocking pick at the time. They probably would’ve been ahead or or around Penix too but probably behind Caleb Williams and Jayden Daniels the draft capital though I get that that’s crazy
I think Daniels and Nixs success last year helps boost Cam Ward and even Shadeur Sanders. In Wards case he’s basically an older mercenary QB in college. 3 teams in 5 seasons. I may have been concerned about that if Nix and Daniels, older mercenaries in their own right hadn’t shown it to be something that helps and not hurts them
so two firsts and three seconds? not buying it…way too rich for a QB who isn’t that highly rated to begin with
That would not make me happy. Can we please build the rest of the missing pieces first and sign a plug for this year
If the JETS selected Ward at 7 id be happy.* If they made some stupid trade up to #1, I definitely would not be... * although I really didnt like him sitting out the 2nd half of their bowl game...
Again, even though the team has multiple holes to plug and there will be serious top talent for some of those holes, at 7, IF they DID pick a QB, as long as they give nothing away to do it. I guess I could "live" with it. I still keep going back to... Let's just say they did pick Ward at 7, if he fell. What would they do with him? He'd be ruined by the time they built a decent team around him. There's no way in hell they sit him if they were to waste the 7th pick. So, unless a kid is ready to hit the ground running, ala Jayden Daniels, to me, it's a wasted pick.
Let the kid ride the pine for a year.... The team has "skill position" players, they just need to fix the o-line (AGAIN). Hopefully Glenn is what we hope and they're not picking in the top ten again for awhile.
I think Ward could fall some. I doubt all the way to 7. more and make it seems like Tennessee wants the pass rusher and the Browns like Shadeur Sanders. If the Giants pass on a rookie QB for Travis Hunter or something - very possible, then we’d only have to move above the Raiders (pick 6). NE won’t take a QB at 4. So the trade is with Jacksonville at 5. It might not take much to move from 7 to 5
Let him learn the playbook properly. Sit him the first half of the season as a minimum. No more stupid Wilson type mistakes…or Sam for that matter. Let him ride the pine for a while.
Yeah…I think our situation would be better served by going OL or DL at 7, or trading back to get a few more picks and using those on OL and DL, and find some stop gap QB for this year … because I’ve heard nothing about any of these QBs being all that. Probably better to build the lines and get the QB next year. But you know, we ARE following our standard Jets blueprint. Hire a rookie DC to be HC? Check. Hire a newbie GM? Check. Draft a QB and throw him to the wolves in front of a shit OL and general lack of talent? Check. What could possibly go wrong?
As far as QBs the Jets might reach for Jackson Dart at 7…. Someone is going to draft him in the first round. I would rather they take an OT to complete the line, or a DE or DT. I am warming up to Tyler Warren at 7 but it still feels like a reach. Warren could help with blocking for the run game AND as a target in the passing game(which will be lacking this coming year).
