If Garrett is really the no-brainer #1 on draft day then Cleveland will either take him or trade the pick. It's like the Texans with Clowney in 2014. You have to honor the consensus #1 if he's there or you'll wind up getting stomped by the fans and the media down the road. Clowney hasn't even been great yet, although the trend is in that direction. If the Texans had taken Bortles or god forbid Johnny Manziel on that pick they'd be so blue right now.
Especially since many experts rate Garrett as better than Clowney. With two 1st round picks - virtually 3 having the 1st pick in the 2nd round - they can take Garrett, and then likely get their QB at #12, or trade up for a better shot at one. Even the Browns shouldn't be able to screw this draft up.
Yep. The Browns are in a golden place right now to have a great draft. They can trade the #1 for a pick further down and future value. Then take the QB with the proceeds or on the 12. They can trade the #12 for a pick further up and take Garrett and the QB somewhere closer to the top than the 12 is. That's two extraordinarily strong options. Then the best option of all in this draft, which would be to take Garrett on the #1 and then take whoever is highest on their board on the #12 and then take the falling QB on the #33. That is the potential for an insane return on value in what is a deep pool of quality players. Just stay away from the CB's until middle of the 2nd and you're golden.
It makes a compelling case for tanking, except the Jets would even screw that plan up if they tried it.
The way to tank in this draft is to trade the #6 pick for a 2nd, a 3rd and next year's #1 to some team likely to have a top 10 pick next year. Then use the 2 2nds and the 3 3rds to take meat and potatoes adds for the offense and defense. Make sure you get an OT, a TE, a RB, an OLB and a CB before the 4th round is over. Draft late for special teams, getting some people likely to be grateful for the opportunity to be a gunner or a block specialist. Draft as much speed as you can in the process, excepting the OT who doesn't need it as much. If you take a late QB then they're part of the competition in camp but odds are really good the rotation next year will go Bryce Petty (G1 to G6), Christian Hackenberg (G7 to 14 losses), etc. Then going into 2018 the Jets have 2 1st's including their own high pick. They have all the meat and potatoes they drafted in 2017. They have a shot to put something together moving forward if the QB's are there in the draft. If the QB's all decide to go back to school, then the Jets trade the #1-#3 they have for a lower 1st in 2018 plus a 2nd and a 3rd in 2018 plus a future 1st. They use their 2 1st round picks in 2018 for BPA and they draft some more meat and potatoes and maybe a QB by pick 36 if anybody good is there. They set the table for 2019 but this time they're going to have to get lucky and hope the future 1st they got in the trade is a high pick. They're not going to be bad enough to be picking in the top 10 in 2019 is my guess.
I completely agree, but I replied to what you said here: "The only argument against fournette is he's a RB and we have bigger needs." Those that think "D" first will disagree - they want their "lockdown CB" or "elite Edge Rusher" first, but the "O" is in way worse shape and must be addressed first.
In reality, in order to get the #1, or worst case #2, QB prospect, you need to have the #1 - #3 pick. This requires a record of 0-16, 1-15, at best 2-14 to ensure that you get that prime pick. I just do not see the Jets losing that many games. I think Bowles will whip them like government mules to eke out every last meaningless win, rather than accept the inevitable and just let the team lose to better their long term future. Coaches don't have "long term futures" so don't hold your breath for Bowles doing this.
Bouye gonna be a hot commodity so there's no discount there or him looking to take a decent deal, that man will get PAID.
Dunno which topic is the best for this, so let me paste it here: Rich Cimini @RichCimini Just a reminder: Sheldon Richardson's 2017 salary ($8.069M) becomes fully guaranteed on Thursday. Fifth-year option. #Jets I think beyond that we should keep him as no cap would be saved.
we can still trade him. doesn't matter who pays the fully guaranteed salary. we will still save the cap. what we can't do is release him because then we still have to pay him the 8 mil
Or you trade down and get bad teams' future #1 picks, then you don't have to tank. It's important that you get those future #1s from really bad teams, though.
If that's what you could actually do, but I'm having trouble believing that a bad team - who also needs to stockpile picks like we do - would trade potentially primo picks in exchange for a good, but not great pick.
Yeah, I've been told that. Actually I DO like to dream...witness my insistence on them picking Mahomes or Watson - but usually my dreaming gets me into more trouble than it rewards me. But given I've lived long as a "dreamer", I'm not likely going to change, so dream on. I apologize for dampening your hopes.
So it looks like we are out on Glennon, Bouye and Gilmore. Taylor probably too. Maybe we make a splash with Jefferson. Beyond that I think the Jets will sign a number of secondary free agents. I'm fine with that. The only problem is we will not be competitive on the field next year. Which will make for a not fun 2017 season. In 2018 though with a top 5 pick the qbs available and money to use in free agency the 2018 season should be fun. The sad thing about this is I think most of us are on board with the rebuild the problem is we should've did this two years ago when Bowles and Mac came. Another wasted year. On a side note. With the Jets and the Bills rebuilding and the Dolphins being a so so team New England should go 6-0 in the division. It amazes me how the these three AFC East really have not challenged New England during this time. Maybe we can take the best players from these three teams to compete against the Pats. They'd probably still go 6-0.
I cant believe that I am this disinterested in the FREE AGENCY period ! Never thought I could feel this way------sucks to be a Jet Fan thanks Todd Bowels and company ! Let me know is it 2018 yet , is Bowels still here ?
I'm honestly excited by the idea that the Jets will let the first wave of free agency pass without an expensive signing. The Jets are not one or even three players away, and everyone who gets signed in the beginning will be overpriced for what they offer. Sent from my KIW-L24 using Tapatalk
