It just appalls me that this thought never crossed any of you: How about "We may get burned and we may get burned big time, but WE WILL NEVER ALLOW YOU TO RUN ON US AT WILL." from the opposing defense? What if they are hell-bent on stopping the run while taking chances at Sanchez? I am saying this because, unless Sanchez was in shotgun formation, (for both Dallas and Jacksonville) no matter what the play was, I almost always saw fully loaded box. All the time. Now, Schotty is not really calling imaginative running plays (like counter trey left, off-tackle, traps etc etc etc) but that aside, if the defense is loading up on the box all freakin' day long, what do you do? Run up the gut 50 times and say "Damn, we tried to run too much?" I am content with the way Jets Offense has been playing by far.
I'm not concerned. It's probably the line. Revisit the issue in a couple of months. By then, they'll probably be running some of the other guys that are sitting right now in order to get some fresh legs. The Jets did this with Greene 2 yrs ago - they brought him in towards the end of the season and he was very effective b/c he wasn't worn out.
I am rewatching the game right now and this is all incorrect in regards to Jax. Usually 7 in the box and a variety of running plays are being called. Thread on 1st down running is coming at some point. It's the blocking that is really killing the running game so far.
Two years ago the running game started out very slowly. We really didn't become a dominant running team that year until the back-to-back 300 yard rushing games vs Buffalo and Oakland. In fact, I'm pretty sure we didn't crack 100 yards rushing before those two games, although we may have in the Houston game.
Exactly. They were not loading up the box and thats what scares me. Their D line was collapsing our O line abd by the time Greene took the handoff there were 3 defenders in the backfield.
I would disagree with the 3 guys in the backfield bit. They are usually missing one key block on a lot runs.
Oh really? That was the impression I got somehow then - but if that's the case, then it's a legitimate cause for concern. True, Baxter was getting pushed around at the line - I am seeing that as well. The blocking is indeed nowhere near where it once was last year.
Before Mangold got hurt Slauson, Hunter and Keller missed blocks that would have made for some bigger runs as well.
Sigh. It's not going to be easy to turn this thing around. And it's not just run blocking. You can get used to having an above average OL, and then very quickly it can become mediocre.
I'm not overly concerned yet. A lot of these plays have pretty complicated blocking schemes. I think a step back to hit the guy you see in front of you could be just what the doctor ordered. It's amazing that many of the no gains and 1-2 yardage are very close to being good plays. I think the line will miss less of these key blocks as the season goes on. They are close to having some really nice gains.
The O-line has been a source of worry for many fans well before the season began and now, until the return of Mangold, even more so....particularly with the challenging upcoming road trip. We all hope that Hunter improves and is just suffering from a slow start. Although I may well be wrong, (and I sincerely hope I am) my concern is that the CS may have graded his late season performance last year replacing Woody higher than they perhaps should have for the simple reason that he came in last year 100% fresh whereas most everyone else he was playing with and against had the usual nicks, dings, wear and general fatigue that affect most players at the end of a grueling NFL season. If this is in fact the case, it would explain why Hunter has not been nearly as solid thus far this season as he was filling in for DW last year. Woody was not the greatest pass blocker but he was more than decent. Alongside Moore, however, he consistently excelled as a run blocker.
Thanks for the complement to our offense, but there have been a LOT of offenses that are out of their minds. Are you aware that there are currently SEVEN QBs that are on track to break Dan Marino's passing record. That almost a QUARTER to fthe league's QB's are on pace to break a record that's almost thirty years old. And if that isn't a good enough indication about the offenses this year. According to PFT, there are only TWO QBs in the league who are currently rated as having less that adequate QB ratings (70 being the "mendoza line" for "adequacy" , and the Jets played one of them on Sunday
It wasn't very much "intact" for the season opener. When Koppen went down, the Pats had to play the game with an OL who had 3 guys who had never started a game for that Pats at that position. Connolly was the back up to Koppen only because the real back up (Wendell) is hurt. (BTW- with his good play the last 2 games, Connolly isn't letting Wendell get job back any time soon.)
None of the other backs are running the ball well, either. Neither team that has has played the Jags has run well.
BTW- I like to ask you Jet fans if you found it dumbfounding that Del Rio didn't pressure Baxter directly for a single play the entire first half (which is what I watched). Here you have an UDFA kid, who has been with his team for just 2 weeks, and you literally give him a free pass. I didn't see a single play in the time I watch where Del Rio put a DT in his face or even had a LB blitz. All he had to so was snap the ball and help on one of the DTs in the pass game or block off side in the run game. I just couldn't believe that he'd leave that kind of opportunity go by. He really doesn't deserve to be a HC in the NFL. Every time he's played the Pats he's played them the same way and gets killed EVERY time, and he STILL hasn't made even attempt to adjust It was the same on Sunday
Oh, I almost forgot my role as a "nabob of negativity" Should Jet fans be worried that because of their inability to run the ball effectively that the most effective aspect of the Jet passing attack, play action, will be diminished. There will be a point where people are NOT going to allow Keller to prance down the seam play after play, and that's Sanchez's best throw that goes beyond 5 yds '
Greene can only do as much as the offensive line allows him to do. Things won't get any easier with Mangold out of the lineup.
I dont blame Greene for this, he honestly hasnt had many holes to even hit. Ontop of that we keep running it up the middle, we seem to never pitch it or anything.
