Of course , we all want that , but this isn't madden where we can go out and sign/draft all the top players for a quick fix. Its about (yawns) finding a mix youth , talent and experience.
First off, Quinn does not suck...He pretty much carried ND his Senior year with a shitty offensive line. Jay Cutler really seems to be doing great this year.......He is the one who sucks. MAKE THIS TRADE IN A HEARTBEAT
The indication to whether the Front Offiice gets the message will be how much we decide to play the FA market. I would pretty much gauge everything on that. If we do what we did in 2007 then obviously the Front Office is light years away from understanding what this team needs and the brain trust of this board would be able to do a much better job. I am not being sarcastic either.
Okay, I've had enough of this. It's fine if you hate Notre Dame. I don't care if people hate ND and its football team and everything that ND stands for. But seriously, do NOT try to pass that off as a reason to call Quinn a bad prospect. If you think Matt Ryan is better, fine. Or Brohm, or Brennan, or Woodson...I don't care. But too many people in this thread are talking about how bad he is and he's not an NFL QB and he was never that good of a prospect. Most of that is just completely biased nonsense. He's a very VERY good NFL prospect. Also, whoever it was that said they were an ND fan and Quinn wasn't that good is kidding themselves. He carried that team game in and game out. I have no idea what games you were watching.
Just say NO to Brady Quinn. Bad move on the Jets part, if they go after him. He sucks with his attitude and with his athletic abilities. The Buckeyes made him look like a POS and the overwhelming majority of NFL defenses will do the same.
WTF are you talking about? His attitude and athletic ability? He happens to be a very athletic qb with a great attitude and work ethic.....you obviously have no clue what your talking about
When I was thinking of what we'd do with Thomas Jones if we drafted McFadden, I thought the Browns would be a good fit because a) Jamal Lewis is a free agent b) they're a playoff team who's probably going to want somebody proven c) their picks will likely be in the mid-to-late part of the round, so I think they'd be willing to give up a 2nd for him. Maybe Jones and a 3rd (remember it'd be a high 3rd) for Quinn? Also, I would still like to give Clemens at least most of next year to prove himself, so I'd just do this to have a good backup plan or at least to have someone to push Clemens.
I'd rather have Pennington than Brady Quinn. Trading for him would be rediculous.. there's no reason to think he'd be any better than Clemens. Plus he's a douche. Vilma's proved he's got Pro-Bowl talent.. why would we give that up on a crap-shoot for a toolbox prettyboy qb.
The people who are riding Quinn off and saying hes nothing are nuts...... 1. Look at ND without him this year.......They barely got 3 Wins. Brady Quinn worked with the same exact O-Line that has been considered garbage and was able to lead the team to a BCS his last year. That O-Line makes the Jets O-Line look like fucking behemoths....... 2. He has the perfect body structure for the NFL and his lone weakness would be the accuracy of his long ball. He has a powerful arm and a great pocket awareness BUT he just needs to work upon his accuracy when going for the deep threat. He can absolutely play in New York and in the cold weather. 3. The reason he fell so low in the draft was because outside of 2-3 teams, nobody really needed a QB. Everyone has their ''QB of the future'' and thus eventually in time there will be a very small need to draft a QB with such a high pick. 4. Quinn got to play his sophomore year and was decent in that year. Weis took over and helped the kid get better, and he put up ridiculous numbers as a junior. He had a very strong senior year....To the person who said Matt Ryan is a better prospect....Ryan had a breakout year this year. Brady Quinn WILL be a Carson Palmer clone in the NFL. The two have had so many similarties coming out of college, its not even funny. Brady has Big Ben's ability to go against DE's because Quinn is powerful and he has the ability to air it out, just needs to tinker it a bit. Oakland were absolutely retarded to take Russell over Quinn.....Lane Kiffin WANTED Brady Quinn but their old owner Al Davis fell in love with Russell's big arm and height so he demanded for JaMarcus to be taken. Quinn is the real deal, no questions asked. As for the deal, I am still believing in Clemens but I wont cry if Quinn comes to NYJ. Hes going to be an stud especially after having a year in the offensive system.
About your #1: Notre Dame does not have the same offensive line this year that they did last year -- they lost Santucci, Morton, and Harris - 3 Seniors. Now, they have two sophomores starting and only 1 senior, Sullivan, their center. Only two of their five starting linemen returned. So before you blow your load all over your keyboard again thinking about Brady Quinn on our team -- he played behind a pretty good offensive line, not the 2007 O-line that Sharpley and Clausen played behind. The 2007 line is garbage and Weis isn't going to have a job if he doesn't fix it. The '06 Notre Dame team was a pretty damn good team, and Quinn did have good success in Weis' system and he did improve as his career went on, but to call him the next Carson Palmer is ridiculous. Palmer won the Heisman and set all kinds of NCAA records. Give me a break. Quinn started as a freshman, not a sophomore. You don't know what you're talking about, so stop trying to hype this guy up EVEN MORE.
How can you guys already talk about trading Thomas Jones? This is ridiculous. I can't wait for bowl games to start so everyone shuts up with these stupid trade rumors.
this is a Fantasy or Madden trade that someone here wants to dream up, because they think he will be the savior - Ellis 92 Ellis - I DO NOT PLAY MADDEN, DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA HOW TO - and DON'T CARE TO FIND OUT! This has NOTHING TO DO WITH MADDEN! Why is it when ANY poster now-a-days says anything about a trade fans scream MADDEN? There are several reasons Cleveland would trade Quinn - he has little value as a backup with lack of experience (and would sit behind Anderson and sit and sit). As a former #1 from ND he's a distraction on the bench - if Anderson has a bad game or a couple of bad games, the fans start screaming "we want Quinn." Third the Browns could use value instead of a guy who'll never see the field...they need a veteran backup if they think they can go far with Anderson - and they do...so they'd rather have Vilma and a pick (no, not a #2) than a benchwarmer. Why would the Jets do it? Vilma is a bad fit it seems - seems unhappy with Mangini - is coming off injury - and is getting older. We have our MLB in Harris - and can plug in another guy from the draft or FA no problem. The Jets need a potential starting QB - no one ever said SAVIOR! No one ever said Quinn is the man - but IMO (yes my opinion) he has a better chance then ANY of the QB's coming out this year, including Ryan from BC. And YES I've seen Ryan play several times this year and if ANYONE is the second coming of Chris Weinke it's Ryan. He's not a strong armed guy, floats it, makes plenty of mistakes, etc. Many of his comeback wins were shaky - and a good opponent would have picked him off. I have not been impressed at all --- ---so, that's my story, not a rumor of any kind - just two fans thinking out loud in a bar restaurant trying to be REASONABLE... gg
This thread should be called the 'Lets trade everybody' thread. Want to win the superbowl quickly , trade the entire team to NE Pats for their team , that was easy. Hmm whats next world domination I think
Vilma's getting older? The guy's in his mid 20s. Sure he's coming off of an bad injury and he doesn't fit our system, but someone would want him...A lot of guys that are as talented as he is play into their mid to late 30s, so he has a lot of juice left in the tank. 1. Matt Ryan isn't 27 years old like Weinke was in college. Matt Ryan doesn't have any arm strength? You must've been watching a different Matt Ryan than me. 2. Everything that you said in this post is terrible, and you don't know what you're talking about...especially if you don't play Madden.
The line was so bad his senior year Darius Walker the RB had A rough year. He had a stable line his junior year because Anthony Fasano was a great blocking TE that caught alot of defenders. The 3 guys you just named werent even highly regarded in the draft......This isnt some Jake Long or Marcus McNeil type of lineman they had down in ND. He had a great year but it wasnt because of the Weis system......I think its stupid to think that its all because of the system that he had such a success. He proved to have the intangibles and being able to read the defenses. He is very similar to Palmer, but of course I wouldent expect you to realize that....Both guys began to heat up in their final year(s) of college football. The only thing Palmer had was the far superior talent, as just about all USC head coaches do. Palmer needed a FULL year to sit on the bench to be where he is today and Quinn IS getting it as of the moment. The two play very similar from what I have seen throughout Quinn's career. Sure the coaching can vary here and there, but when I saw Brady his senior year he struck a resemblance. As for Quinn not winning the heisman, he was playing in the same two years as the great 3 hype machine of Bush, Leinart and Young. No chance he would get it over those 3 guys. Willingham still had envisioned Holiday as the QB when Quinn was brought in, Willingham then had to make Holiday a WR because of Quinn emerging. Im not blowing shit through my keyboard, get a grip kid and start to grow up.
Even though it's too soon to say whether or not Clemens is the real deal, what makes anyone think that Brady Quinn is... he hasn't even snapped the ball once yet!
He showed more NFL ready intangibles. Clemens was great in college up until that injury that took him and his team out of a BCS bid, which obviously cost him some money in the draft. I am not against Clemens by any means, I like the guy. I think he gets knacked on too much because he came from Oregon which always scares people. I just think Quinn is the better talent because he has a better pocket awareness and is more stronger.
He has shown more NFL intangibles by beating up on every branch of the armed services in college? Every time he faced a good team he played horribly! I do not think Quinn will be good in the NFL at all.
