Jets Hire Marty Mornhinweg for OC

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  1. LongIslandBlitz

    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

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    Wellbeing thatwe didnt score any point's onoffense in the entire preseason , 1 TD in the preseasonwillmake this move a home run
     
  2. JETFIGHTERS

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    Rex is on a short leash...
     
  3. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Not that short..this year's team will be lucky to win 5 games if he does a great job.
     
  4. Aewhistory

    Aewhistory Well-Known Member

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    Are you really comparing Sanchez to Testverde? Or even Chad? I think I get what you're insinuating with the Pennington/Sanchez thing even though I disagree. However, Testaverde was a physical beast. I remember reading an article in the '90s talking about his workout regimen and it was insane. People really have a poor appreciation for VT. To say that Sanchez has and arm anything like VT isn't even close. How many long passes has Sanchez completed? Are they EVER accurate? VT could lob bombs all days long. No contest. Sorry for the VT lovefest, but I think he is one of the best QBs we've ever had and is sadly underrated.


     
  5. Aewhistory

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    Me likey!

    I wish people would stop bringing up Vick-it makes me want to bring up my lunch. As much as I love the Jets this is just a game. What he did was all too real. It doesn't help that he is washed up. I think he was basically a one year fluke since his return anyway, so bringing him in and rooting for him would be like selling my would to the Devil so we can acquire more mediocrity. If I'm going to hell I want something good.....
     
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    Yep, my feelings exactly. It is like getting rid of a lemon of a car only to buy and old Pacer. Just because you managed to find one of the few pieces of crap that made your old car look better does not mean it was a good car--it is still a lemon and your Pacer still desperately need to be in the junkyard.

    Schotty is a lemon but I never even began to grasp why we hired Sparano. I showed Sparano's work history to my wife when he was hired and she had the same reaction is had: "huh?". There was little there to recommend him save for BPs promise that he was the ONE. He wasn't.
     
  7. Big Blocker

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    I gotta say I think the Jets did about as good as they could in hiring Marty. Marty will still face big problems with the roster, and has to work to resolve the Qb mess. But I think he did quite well with the talent they had in Philly. And no one else struck me as a better candidate. Perhaps Norv, but I couldn't see Norv coming to the Jets and working for Ryan. He didn't have to, so he didn't.
     
  8. Hobbes3259

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    We put up 40 week 1
     
  9. Hobbes3259

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    I'm comparing their career path. Are you an ESL student?

    Testaverde sucked for years, and threw to many ints because he was always asked to outside, and down the field.Like Sanchez.

    They brought him here and instituted a side to side short passing game, and he flourished.



    And BTW..go look..I ridiculed another poster on the Sanchez/passes over 15 yards. I stopped after six or seven in week one,

    Try actually watching a game.


    Go back, and watch week 1 v. buffalo, and wk 10 v. st Louis.

    MM can get that kind of performance.

    And FWIW...we're talking about 5 percent over what, less than 500 passing attempts...to get over 60 percent.

    That's 25 passes over a season. People need to get a grasp of reality.
     
  10. cval

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    It is not Sanchez's talent but his confidence and his propensity to fumble. Every QB throws bad passes every QB throws interceptions. Sanchez gets down on himself and gets worse after an INT that is not good. But his biggest weakness is his propensity to fumble. If he does not learn to hold onto the football he is done as a QB.
     
  11. Hobbes3259

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    They said that about Tiki Barber as a RB.

    Fumbling is coachable
     
  12. displacedfan

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    Fumbling for a QB is different than a RB. Fumbling for a QB is more poor awareness while fumbling for a RB is more ball security/how they carry the ball. It can be corrected for Sanchez but it's annoying that this was something that was felt to be coached out of him, same with throwing into triple coverage, same with starting down receivers, and all these problems came back end of 2011-2012 and most of 2012-2013
     
  13. BrowningNagle

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    It's coachable to a degree. You can coach a QB to hold onto the ball better, have better awareness, better decisionmaking - etc. But there's got to be reciprocation on the other end. This coaching has to sink into Mark Sanchez.

    4 years into his career and Mark Sanchez is still sloppy with the football, he still makes horrible decisions and has terrible awareness of situations. At what point does this fall squarely on his shoulders? He's had plenty of different people work with him and yet he still hasn't shown that he can do these things. At some point you have to say if he doesn't get it NOW - he ain't gonna ever get it.
     
  14. displacedfan

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    I think the frustrating part was that he seemed to get for a while his second year. Even part of his third year and then down the stretch the wheels fell off. If he just stunk it up, it would be easier to comprehend, but at one point he at least seemed to be a serviceable QB.
     
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    Vick has already come forward and said he's not interested in the Jets, so we can get rid of that idea.
     
  16. TNJet

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    I compare Sanchez to a dump I had a while ago, it was wonderful to get rid of it.
     
  17. abyzmul

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    You provide nothing to the human race. You are like a turd floating around in a high protein soup.
     
  18. AbdulSalam

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    +1 I'm not sure why some are so down on MM. He's a radical departure from the Ground & Pound, has tons of experience and he's consistently been a successful OC. Seems like the NYJ made 2 good hiring decisions, Im looking forward to seeing what Idzik's next move is.
     
  19. Hobbes3259

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    While I admit you are corre t on that point.....


    How much do clothes cost in the Matrox?
     
  20. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    When was the last time we had a coach on both sides of the ball who consistently field top 10 units?

    It makes me hope that Rex isn't on a one year lease. The talent clearly sucks, and is very likely about to get worse. They need to give these guys the chance to build something.
     

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