Jets Have Interest In Zach Orr

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by hwismer, Jun 29, 2017.

  1. MoWilkBeast

    MoWilkBeast Well-Known Member

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    Yes he does!!! Seriously, he registered when he first got the Jets beat gig to find out what we, the Jets fans, wanted from their reports.

    And I still haven't seen anything that I would call a dig from him - Orr would be an upgrade on Davis, who is a capable veteran but has flaws. That's the synopsis of what he said to preface his use of PFF stats. It's exactly what Davis is as far as I'm concerned. If he'd called Davis deeply disappointing or barely adequate then maybe it is a dig, but he didn't.

    Maybe he could have quoted Orr's last year grading, or Harris's for completeness? That might have given the article a bit more depth and context.

    The Post's headline, which I agree is out of line with the actual article, is far more of a dig than anything Hughes has written in his piece.
     
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  2. Ralebird

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    The editors of the Post put a 100% accurate headline on the story, or do you somehow believe a significant spinal problem doesn't matter? Stop telling us what is "fair" and point out that which is not accurate. If the Jets are going to look at a quarterback it's appropriate to put in some background on why a quarterback is needed, even if everyone here knows all too well. If they hire a special teams coach shouldn't they say why there's an opening? That's part of the background information that makes a story complete.

    The beat writers are not bashing the team, they are telling us the baby is ugly...because it is.
     
  3. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    Constantly niggling a poster who believes a headline was more sensationalized than it needed to be is hardly adhering to your new found philosophy in another thread.

    You know fine well what the poster is getting at and as is your wont you are playing the troll again.


    :rolleyes:
     
  4. TonyFtLaud

    TonyFtLaud Well-Known Member

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    First of all, I'm not telling you or anyone what is fair.
    I'm entitled to my opinion and your entitled to yours.
    I don't think it is necessary to interject some sensationalized headline or to take shots at individuals in order to write a quality news piece.

    The news as we know it today has become more about a writers opinion then actual fact. It's sad but a reality.
    How you can say the current beat writers don't bash the Jets puzzles me, Manish claims the voices in his head as unnamed sources within the organization , Cimini will take portions of several quotes and combine them to take several positive quotes and turn them into a negative , and Hughes is quickly discovering that the negativity will Garner more attention than anything positive so he goes out of his way to throw it in the mix.
    If you chose to feed on negativity that's your choice and I can respect that. There's plenty of it , both surrounding the Jets organization and in life. I choose to look at the positives , that's my choice.
     
  5. Ralebird

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    Only in the mind of someone who believes a simple disagreement is trolling.
     
  6. Ralebird

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    Of course we're entitled to our opinions but certainly those who make their living sharing their opinions in newspapers and on the web are also entitled to theirs. I don't understand why some here are constantly excoriating journalists for doing their jobs but fairly recent changes in that business may be partly responsible. Reporters report what happens, columnists voice their opinion which has always been pretty simple for most to understand but now, apparently in an effort to contain expenses some papers have the same people performing both functions.

    I fail to see what is sensationalized about telling the reader about medical problems a potential replacement may have as well as why a replacement is being considered, in fact I would think a writer not including that information to be remiss.

    What seems odd to me is that Hughes and Schwartz are the authors of the two articles linked here but somehow we're back to tired arguments about Manish and Cimini.
     
  7. TonyFtLaud

    TonyFtLaud Well-Known Member

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    Would you say that Hughes was remiss when reporting hack hit multiple reporters with passes when in fact no reporters were hit by passes and omitting the fact that only one reporter actually had any contact with a football that hack threw , and that reporter admitted to going out of his way to hit that ball or the fact that the intended reciever slipped on his break and fell to the ground?
    In my opinion, that is a fact that was very relevant , however that wouldn't be interesting to Jet Fans or anyone. Omitting those facts was a way to grab attention and create a very negative storyline .

    Obviously we have different opinions on the subject and should just agree to disagree.

    To the OP , I apologise for the way this thread has gone so off topic.

    Has there been any recent news on Zach Orr ?
     
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  8. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    I won't comment on a story without reading it and I'm not interested enough to try to find it. Whether that was in a story or just in a tweet I don't know but I hate that these guys feel the need to send out a tweet when there's nothing to talk about. It's practice, I don't find missed passes to be a news item. I don't need a play by play or an exact pass count but a progress report would work but some guys would insist on stats. They can't satisfy everyone.
     
  9. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    Strange that, you surely must have read the article or have knowledge of it, you posted in the thread about Hack hitting reporters after all.

    So those reports were the kind of blatant lies Tony is complaining about, again as well you know.
     
  10. Br4d

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    Mehta plays the muck-raking anti angle much of the time. Cimini is one of the senior correspondents covering the Jets and people have many years of things to complain about - most of which aren't forgotten over the course of time.

    That's why they are currently the most polarizing media figures covering the Jets.

    I miss Paul Zimmerman a lot. Dr. Z's trademark humor helped cover a lot of the digs that reality made him take when the Jets were bad.
     
  11. Ralebird

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    Haven't read it, have seen people here discussing it, but the devil is often in the details. I'd prefer to read the actual piece myself rather than form an opinion based on the way someone else paraphrases it. A blatant lie to one guy might be poetic license or a little levity to another. There are certainly some big topics we can get worked up over; I don't think this is one.
     
  12. Ralebird

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    Mehta is one of the guys who is part time reporter, part time columnist. As a columnist he gets free rein to voice his opinions, as unpopular as they may be. I don't have a problem with that. I don't know what Cimini's status is in that regard.

    The problem here is that guys complain if they don't like what's written, even if it's true. Getting back to Orr, that's exactly what happened. His medical status is the bigger part of his story than the fact he's being considered to join the Jets; not including that information or making it the focus of the piece would be negligent. The history of Davis in this regard is important background information. I don't understand why a few guys here seem to take every item that points out flaws in the Jets organization so personally without arguing their validity.
     
  13. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    Oh fuck off, you know full well Hack never hit 6 journalists, this why you get labeled a troll, you just keep replying with more utter pedantic crap, anyways I can't be arsed reading you anymore, you are history.
     
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  14. Ralebird

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    I am shattered.
     
  15. themorey

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    Cimini downplayed the whole thing when he said he was one of the reporters to get hit when a pass went incomplete and skipped off the wet grass and into the crowd standing on the sideline. If cynic Dick downplays it there is no story there. This whole thing was so blown out of proportion its crazy. This sort of sensationalist "journalism" can only happen with the Jets.
     
  16. Ralebird

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    I'm with you, but who blew it out of proportion? The pros or the forum fanatics?
     
  17. themorey

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    It was the Interwebs. It trolled all over the webs and snowballed until it became a story about Hack wildly throwing directly into the throng of reporters. It reminds me of the prison grapevine scene from Johnny Dangerously.
     
  18. Jay Bizniss

    Jay Bizniss Well-Known Member

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    We may not be the first choice in terms of talent (although we have some ballers on defense that he can come and mesh with), but we can no doubt pay him the most money. Sign this beast.
     

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