Jets decide not to pick up Jones roster bonus

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  1. Hemi

    Hemi Well-Known Member

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    And I agree with those that say, Thanks Jones. Thanks for some great years here in green and good luck.

    And who knows....a week from now, a new deal?
     
  2. SyracuseJet

    SyracuseJet Well-Known Member

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    I agree. Reading a draft scouting report on a guy who's had the chance to prove it in the NFL is just fuckin' stupid. If that's how we find players, then cut Sanchez now, because there is a guy in his early thirties who, according to his scouting report, should be a hall of famer when he's done. His name is Ryan Leaf.
     
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    How did his contract workout? You always hear about the big details, but never the little stuff. Were the last three years voidable?
     
  4. Hemi

    Hemi Well-Known Member

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    Cimini explains the contract last year....

     
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    Mr Electric Banned

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    We'd have to break him out of jail.
     
  6. Altoona

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    Good post, thanks. It is somewhat reasonable to assume that he fell so far in the draft due to the stigma of fragility he carries. Perhaps this reputation together with his academic issues lead potentially interested teams to conclude that he was just too injury prone and mentally "slow" to warrant the risk associated with an earlier round selection. From then on, however, it becomes difficult to draw clear and objective conclusions as to why he failed to catch on with the Jags and Cowboys in the absence of any specific performance related information.

    When you look at how crowded the Jags and Cowboys were/are at the RB position combined with the low level of financial exposure those teams had in picking him up, he's almost doomed from the start unless he was able to do something extraordinary with the limited opportunity he was given.

    He may be a wild long shot but be unless someone can put forth tangible information as to why he has not yet caught on anywhere, the jury should remain out. Despite his being on the roster for 4 years, Miles Austin is a great example of an extremely talented player whose own team considerably underestimated just how good a receiver he really was capable of being until he finally got the opportunity to play on a more regular basis. Had they known what they had in him, I seriously doubt they would have wasted the money and draft picks on Roy Williams.

    Until now, Washington has not had a true or representative shot at proving whether or not he really has what it takes to succeed as an NFL running back. Perhaps the fact that the Cowboys and Jags already had pretty good depth at the position and that CW was a minor investment contributed (along with his reputation for fragility) to his ultimate expendability. Or maybe he sucked in practice. Who knows? All I know is that based on the fact that we could use quality depth at the position, that he costs us so little and at least on paper, has some tangibles that make him extremely interesting, make him someone worth rooting for in my mind regardless of how long the odds are.
     
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    thanks t.jones for the memories, the s. greene era begins!

    for those who are surprised, or dont understand the move, i'm pretty sure this is why we drafted greene, this was the plan last season.

    would'nt you all agree? no need to have a lot of $ tied up in 3 rb's
     
  9. blackbusiness

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    Question is, which of these guys ran in a successful zone blocking sceme?
    I also am no fan of ditching TJ at the height of his game. Smells similar to the moves we made with Moss, Coles, Vilma, Farrior, Abraham, etc. in so much as these guys continued to produce once they left the Jets.
     
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  10. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    32 yrs old isn't the height of his game.

    We just saw the height of his game. Now its going to be over.

    Coles, Moss, Vilma, Farrior, Abe all left during or before their prime.
     
  11. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    The biggest reason I was afraid to lose Jones:

     
  12. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    That bothers me less about the Jones situation than it does about the Gholston situation. The team will get over TJ being cut loose.

    But a waste of everything like VaG is tells me that the team is pretty much laughing at the CS for believing the guy can do anything other than fill a set of pads.
     
  13. jetophile

    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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    I can't cut on Thomas Jones other than that he didn't, well, cut. He was a more than serviceable Jet, and I was really high on him because we practically got him for a song from Chicago. Who complained, not me. Granted he ran out of gas in the Champ game, but who knows if it was more broken spirit than anything else. He did well for us. So long, Guns, and thanks.
     
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    bang on.

    I made mention of this in another thread. It seems Gholston isn't revered amongst his locker room peers....and with good reason. The CS better get their heads out of their asses regarding that pile of excement.
     
  15. jetophile

    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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    I miss Kevan Barlow! :(
















    Hehe.
     
  16. ScotsJet

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    The players should be asking Jones why he wants to leave and line his own pockets instead of taking a pay cut and playing the good soldier. If he's such a great leader why is he walking out on his teammates over money?
     
  17. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Don't let alleycat see you posted that.
     
  18. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    So now you expect him to take a reduced role and a pay cut after having arguably his best season whcih came a year after he led the AFC in rushing? I think the players understand his point of view especially in the uncapped year.
     
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    The players won't ask him that because he ran for 1400+ yds, 14TD's, last season for a base salary of 900K. This year, he's set to make 2.8M. They just don't wanna give him his roster bonus $, which, if you ask me, I think he's earned. I'm sure they're all thinking, "This organization treats players that earned their money, like shit."
     
  20. Hemi

    Hemi Well-Known Member

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    See again, this is where I disagree.

    His contract was front loaded, with lots of cash guaranteed up front. He made plenty of dollars.

    From nyjetscap.com


    You see it as he only made 900,000 this year. When in fact, he made 12 million the last three years total between signing bonus, two roster bonuses, plus his base salary. Averaged 4 million the last three years.

    12 Million guaranteed, no matter what he did, that money was his. He got alot of cash up front, and is now nearing the end. Jets wanted to restructure with the idea that he will be in more of a platoon next year, it is just good business sense. The guy got 6 million just for signing.
     
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