They don't win the division unless they sweep the Pats and I'm having a hard time envisioning a split with them much less a sweep. Their O is practically unstoppable and one of these years they will come up with a serviceable defense. However, 9 wins will probably be enough to get a wild card spot in the AFC this year based on how the league schedule plays out. From the Jets perspective you can look at it this way as any AFC loss vs an NFC team helps them. Interconference AFC East vs. NFC West. Clear advantage AFCE. Jets should at minimum push at 2-2 vs this division and hopefully 3-1. Probably the Seattle game out there is the difference between a push and 3-1. AFC North vs. NFC East. A push. Will probably play .500 against each other or tip slightly in NFCE favor. Effects 2 teams of big 3 in that division as the Browns aren't likely to contend and an early season win in Pittsburgh by the Jets would be very helpful in tiebreaker scenarios. NFC North vs. AFC South. Clear advantage NFCN. Houston is the clear favorite here so it most likely effects Tennesse. They won't be favored vs any of the Big 3 of the NFCN. Possibly Indy but they will be heavy underdogs as well vs. the Big 3. The Jags aren't likely to contend. AFC West vs. NFC South. Clear advantage NFCS. Atlanta and New Orleans are likely to be favorites in every game they play against this division and both will likely have winning records vs. this division. Carolina has a decent chance to push here as well. Intraconference AFC AFC East vs. AFC South. Advantage AFC East. Jets at minimum should push here. Get one of the TEN or HOU games and they have a good chance to be 3-1. AFC North vs. AFC West. Advantage North but either way the contenders should bounce each other around a bit. If either division dominates that likely pushes the other contenders out of wild card contention. Intra division AFC AFC East. From a Jets perspective take care of Buffalo and Miami. 4-0 or 3-1 at worst. Take your chances against the Pats and see what happens. AFC North. The big 3 will bang each other around keeping each other from running away from the pack or if one dominant team emerges that likely pushes one team out of the WC picture. Jets play Pittsburgh. AFC South. Likely 2 contenders and Jets play both of them. Tenn and Hou. AFC West. Tough division to call. All 4 teams will likely bang each around with no one team likely to win 5 or 6 games within the division. Jets play San Diego Even if the offense struggles they have a better than even chance of scratching their way to 9 wins and with the way everything else sets up that will likely be good enough for a WC spot like Cincy's 9-7 record last year. If Sparano and the O can produce a bit more the ceiling gets raised into double digit wins.
It's certainly possible but extremely unlikely. The Jets defense will have to be better than the 2000 Ravens' to accomplish this.
That really isn't true at all. There will never again be a defense like that. The offense has to be average for us to win a lot of games. The defense will most likely finish top 5. It all depends on the offense, which we have no clue how it will turn out.
Sebastian Vollmer and Brian Waters will be there, and will perform just fine. The Pats O line is just fine and is very serviceable for the time Brady needs with all his weapons. The Jets will not even make the playoffs this year, they will be lucky to have a better record than 6-10. Here is the breakdown: Week 1 vs. Buffalo(Loss 0-1)(Intense pass rush cause INT..Sanchez Booed) Week 2 vs. Pittsburgh(Loss 0-2)(More INTs for Mark, Tebow Chants start) Week 3 vs. Miami(Win 1-2)(Fans start saying Sanchez is turning the corner) Week 4 vs. San Francisco(Loss 1-3)(3 more PICS, Sanchez has little supporters left) Week 5 vs. Houston(Loss 1-4)(FOSTER owns the D) Week 6 vs. Colts(Win 2-4)(Sanchez plays well, fans come back to him) Week 7 vs. New England(Loss 2-5)Total Massacre, Tebow starts the second half and remains the starter going forward as he mounts a potential comeback only to lose at the end. Week 8 vs. Miami(Win 3-5)(Tebow has a fantastic game, fans rally behind him, along with the rest of the team) Week 9 Bye(Media outlets going crazy...Tebowmania hits its highest peak Week 10 vs. Seattle(Win 4-5)(Tebow manages teh game well and pulls out a great win, but mainly because of a stellar defensive effort by the Jets) Week 11 vs. St. Louis(Loss 4-6)-Schottenheimer will demonstrate a good offense with a capable QB. 8 men in the box to stop tebow from running, Tebow will try to throw it around but fail miserably. Week 12 vs. New England(Loss-4-7)(Close game here but Tebow just can not get it done, Jets lose by 6) Week 13 vs. Arizona(Win 5-7)(Gang Green forum members will start posting about the "run" that their team is about to make. It will fall on deaf ears!) Week 14 vs. Jacksonville(Win 6-7)(Fans are going crazy, Tebowmania is nuts, media outlets outlining playoff & wildcard spot scenarios) Week 15 vs. Tennessee(Loss 6-8)(resurgent Chris Johnson will run all over NYJ, fans & players realize they just lost their chance to even make the playoffs) Week 16 vs. San Diego(Loss 6-9)NYJ realizes they are out, calling for Ryans termination before the game even starts. Gregg McElroy starts this game Week 17 vs. Buffalo(Loss 6-10) Buffalo will be fighting for a playoff spot. There will be no fans left commenting on these forums, they will all be on the Pats forums wishing for the Pats to lose.
The Jets defense was #1 in 09 and 10 and the offense was average then. Would you not agree the offense is worse now? So even a #1 defense won't win it all in spite of the effort on the other side of the ball. The defense needs to be legendary if the offense is anemic, a top 5 defense won't cut it.
Exactly. Something should be done to address the immediate problem, the elephant in the room. L2 Score a damn TD!!!!!!!!
So what you are saying is that Sanchez has not gotten any better. Tebow will be the savior only to fall short and the fans start calling for MCELROY. The defense gets torched left and right. You are out of your mind, my friend. I am sorry you took all that time to make a post that long and have it turn out as bas it was.
this thread confirms how absurd the presason prognosticators are. newsflash: nobody has a crystal ball and nobody knows how things will unfold. hence threads like tis one are 100% bs. enjoy.
Let's see. 1. Jets cannot score a touchdown the entire preseason. Conclusion - Chill, it's the preseason, we will unleash everything during the regular season. 2. Pats having trouble in the O-line during the preseason. Conclusion - Pats are doomed. Brady will get hurt. Jets will win the division. I smell hypocrisy here.
in 2009, yes the defense was #1 but the offense was well below average ... 9-7 in 2010, the offense was about average and the defense was #3 ... 11-5 there is no way the offense is worse now that it was in 2009, and if sanchez continues to marginally improve, the offense is at least as good as it was in 2010 too
huh? in 09 we could pound the football. one of the best in the league at it. we could also protect the passer better. right now we have the same philosiphy as 09 with ground and pound only we have worse backs and a worse oline
right now is the preseason. if u want to base ur opinion off of watching some glorified practice sessions that is up to you. the preseason is however completely meaningless.
who is basing anything of preseason? im going off last year and personel. stop being such a ginormous homer. we simply lack talent on offense. to imply the 09 team wasnt better offensively is just insane. especially the running game which was tops in the NFL, and will likely be bottom 10 this season(maybe a bit higher if tebow-cat is effective)
we were one of the best in the league, but we would struggle to run it for most of the game and then break long runs in the third and fourth quarters ... our run game was far from consistent and jones went down on first contact easier than greene does. also, faneca was one of the worst pass protection guards in the league that year we dont have the same philosophy as 09, we will run it MAX %50 of the time but if we did run it 60% of the time, like 09, i would expect similar results. short gains until you wear the defense down late in the second half ... but that strategy is taxing on your defense and you backs, which is why jones fell of a cliff by the end of 09
no its not sanchez is WAY better than he was in 09, that alone is a huge difference in the offensive abilities of the two teams jones was nothing special, he got what the line gave him just like greene does ... that said, leon washington was better than our scat backs now our starting receivers going into the season were cotchery and stuckey, we had no depth at the position ... our receivers now are so much better, its not even close keller is better now than he was in his second season the o-line was marginally better largely because of woody and a younger moore ... but brick, slauson, and mangold are better than our left side in 09 (again, players do improve)
