I think it depends on the game. The New England game he clearly played hurt from the second play and just didn't have the juice/burst. Last two games though I agree with you - blocking has been horrendous. Ivory even said so himself in not so many words. It's probably a function of teams deciding to take him out of the game, and I don't think if Ivory is averaging 1 yard per carry that our offense can keep up with the good teams.
I was never implying that we trade Leonard for Gurley. But just looking at it in hindsight, Gurley would've helped this team more than Leonard has. FTR, I don't believe Ivory can handle a full workload for the duration of an entire season. He's not built for it and his style of play will always make him miss games every season. Prior to this season, Rex and his coaching staff (and to an extent in New Orleans) would always limit his carries because they knew that in order to get the best of Ivory for an entire season was to limit his carries and keep him fresh. This is the first in his career he's getting a full workload and he started out hot but is starting to wear down. Yes, oline blocking is important. But there have been a few times where there were holes and he just doesn't have the same burst to cut through like he did early on. Having two power backs would've kept Ivory fresh and helped out the offense immensely. Ivory is really a 12-14 carry back instead of the 25-27 carries he's getting right now.
Well, that's my point. No one really remembers who was blocking for these guys with the possible exception of O.J. (Electric Co.). However, they were league leaders year after year and for many years. You can't just say "well they accomplished that because they had great blocking." There had to be times over that span when they had good blockers and not so good blockers. They are considered "great" because they were great RB's period, not because they had great blocking.
That's all well and good but there are very few RB's in the history of the NFL that could have had success in our rushing attack Sunday. It was partly the o-line and partly the Jags completely selling out on early downs with 8-9, even 10 guys in the box. Barry Sanders could have probably got something done. I can't really think of any others. Even the best RB's need SOMETHING to work with. Sunday there was a bunch of nothing.
it wasnt just the oline? watch the film of that game? what RB is going to get by 4 guys who hit him the second he gets the ball? being hit my MULTIPLE guys in the backfield is on the oline. no back is going to do well in that scenario. i dont even think ivory had a bad game, let alone anything being hsi fault. the line was pathetic. MULTIPLE defenders in the backfield on every run play
Very much agree. His style is based on making contact and yards after contact, very much lends itself to injury. Also, any RB would be more effective in an offense with an good passing attack. Jets passing offense is mediocre at best. Therefore it's very easy to game plan against the Jets right now: "stop the run, make them throw." Having Ridley would help, but what the Jet's really need and (what many GG posters have been saying) is a QB.
Ivory owned the edge at the beginning of the season...the last 3 weeks he pulls up...??? not sure why...just doesn't seem to have the confidence in his 2nd gear and is not beating the defense to the sideline. When he gets the edge is when he is fearsome. The Oline has looked pretty bad on the run (i'll concede it though, as long as they continue to protect Fitz)
I don't see how it's the O-line's fault, if as you said the Jags committed to stopping the run with 8-9 men. The response to that type of defense is to pass, which the Jets did with success enough to win.
The passing attack has been effective enough to the point where our running game shouldn't be 1.2 YPC bad. We ranked 18th in passing yards, 17th in yards/game, 21st in yards/attempt and 12th in passing TDs. As I said these aren't ground breaking numbers but they're certainly not bottom of the barrell.
Did you cut and paste something? Weird. I not write anything close to the sentence you quoted me as writing.
First, no, I did not add the bold face on purpose although it could have been my miss-typing that caused it. Second, neither you nor I can know exactly what the D coordinators were concerned about on day 1, or even after. All I can say is that if I was a D coordinator facing the Jets on day 1, I would be more concerned about Decker and Marshall than Ivory, especially knowing that Fitzpatrick a QB with a lot of experience (rather than the turnover machine, Geno), would be starting for the Jets.
Yeah, but go look at it. lol. It's a "twown" post you're quoting. Also, I was alerted by the site that I'd been quoted. That's trippy. As for the other matter... whatever, safe to say our posts to each other are not serving this thread very well. Jumbled dialog. Let's drop it.
This is pretty much what he's been seeing the last 3 weeks. Qvale that bum getting pushed back when he's got like 100 pounds on the guy.
exactly when ManG went out ciuplrd with colon out well... the line assignments were a mess, missed assignments all over the place, poor blocking techniques, etc.... w/o those two we can not seem to open holes.... also the scheme is to block one on one but the RBs have the responsibility to beat the last defender...
Sore hammy + shitty blocking + no threat of deep ball = stacked box / no running game as the honorable SatoshiNakamoto has said...... we need Barry sanders jr.
