This is important. No faster way to lose a locker room than to raise the white flag and throw the current season in the trash. Fields performance affects every single man on the offensive side of the ball. How do you evaluate/keep/pay/get rid of players who can't adequately show you what they "have" if your QB is fully deficient in the basics of operational effectiveness? I sure as hell wouldn't want to be in that position.
And then we wonder why players don’t want to come here… I’m telling you, trading these guys I’m sure they look at it as blessing…I know I would
Damn right they did. Obviously, I have no way of knowing for sure but I, personally, would be doing a jig, three cartwheels and a couple back flips on the way out so I'd imagine it was something like that as Q and Sauce were waving goodbye.
Trust me.. I certainly CAN imagine all the gear and charters. Especially with my plans for '26 involving more travel to closer destinations than this year. Norfolk/Virginia Bch, Seabrook, NH. just to name a few..
Maybe he did. Fine. When it's clear now that is not true, AG has to learn from his mistake and react. Doubling down in this way is worse than signing him. Something has to be wrong in the QB room. Tyrod has to be carrying a serious injury.
I surely just did. Maybe a long lost Cousin? It could be that @Jonathan_Vilma is correct that Looney Tunes Woody is pulling the strings, behind the scenes, because the $$ they paid him. Anyway you look at it, the whole situation stinks and NO self-respecting high school coach would put that kid on the field let alone an NFL caliber HC. There has GOT to be something more at play here. Hell, let's say TT IS a lot more hurt than reported. Let's say Brady Cook IS nowhere near ready. I've GOT to believe there is a QB out there, riding the couch, who would LOVE a shot and would play their asses off and look a crap ton better than this trifling display we've been subjugated to!
It truly boggles the mind that he is a starting QB in the NFL. How can someone so undeserving of such a honor continue to get chance after chance after chance after chance ...
Well what are the possible answers? 1. Tyrod is too hurt to play and Cook has looked even worse in practice so there are no options on the team 2. Woody is mandating the playing time because he is paying him 3. Woody and AG are both on board with the tank, because that IS the one thing Fields is good at 4. AG really IS that terrible a coach that he actually thinks Fields is the best way to win 5. AG is so arrogant that he refuses to change his mind I don’t know which it is, but Woody is one common denominator over the last 20 years so #2 is a very real possibility…though not sure what to think of his comments publicly criticizing Fields a few weeks ago….I’m not writing off #4 yet either, though No matter which one it is, all of these reasons suck and all of them lead to the same outcome…we will continue to suck as a team because the people making these decisions are fucking clueless
You do realize that Glenn is the coach, right? He is not the GM, not the equivalent of Joe Douglas who you're trying to compare him to. I'm sure that Glenn had some input into hiring Fields but you don't mention Mougey at all - he's the guy who signed Fields. You also have said you understand bringing in a placeholder who is a long shot at becoming a real QB - that's exactly what you got. What's the big deal?
I am with you and punched out beforethe season started because I felt that the "newness" + fields would be a disaster and it is... I watch the lowlights on uT too so....
I was listening to Pat Kirwan on NFL on Sirius and he came right out and said it. Justin Fields is an ATHLETE, not an NFL QB. Plain and simple. He's on year 5 in the NFL and he can't do what Drake Maye can do in year 2. My guess is he can't do what Brady Cook does either from the Practice Squad, yet he'll not get a shot until Fields gets injured. Someone is trotting this kid out there to the detriment of the rest of the team and it needs to stop. Seriously, what is there to gain by it all? Fields continues to shred the position of QB, AG is already on the hot seat with the fans and this isn't helping. They have no idea how bad/good Tanner is nor the other skill players on the team and the offense in general. By all accounts, Fields is a good dude and a stand up guy. I can't see why a conversation can't be had. I mean, fuck. What was that kid we had a bunch of years back, Brad Smith. (whoooo...there's a name) Packages can be made to utilize Fields talents and he could make a hell of a career out of that. Get a real damn QB under center and move Fields somewhere where he can use those massive talents of his. How flippin bad could Brady Cook be, if Taylor is that hurt. Find SOMEBODY. Craziness...
Yea I know who the GM and the HC are. I think they both fucked up in hoping Fields could develop. I guess I take it out on Glenn more vocally because he’s the one who keeps playing him when it’s painfully obvious that he sucks. I think he had more than “some input”…Fields was his chosen guy and he keeps defending him. In the end, I don’t know who pushed for Fields more…was it Mougey, was it Glenn, was it both? I don’t know. But I DO know that AG is the guy who keeps playing Fields and keeps talking like he’s just about there, if only we made some catches, etc. My point was that I like the strategy of bringing in a placeholder, but I HATE the execution of that strategy in choosing Fields as that placeholder. THAT was my point. Just like I liked JD’s strategy in how to build a team but I think he failed in the execution of that strategy in choosing the wrong players more often than not. So to ME, the big deal is that I think our GM and our HC showed piss poor evaluation and judgment in choosing Fields. It doesn’t give me a ton of confidence that they will be able to (1) identify the right guy to draft and (2) develop said guy. That is the big deal to me.
The thing is I think you are making way too big of a deal over a one year bridge quarterback. You go into it with two options: he is the guy or he isn’t the guy. I would much rather him fail spectacularly so that there’s 0% chance He’s in consideration next year. But yeah it also would’ve been great if he turned into the guy. Even though most people with a brain and two eyes knew he wouldn’t. it’s one year. It’s an experiment that was set up to be a one year experiment. It’s one that was probably pitched to ownership as being a potential colossal waste of time but that also doesn’t matter because this year wasn’t about winning games considering the roster they went into the season with. now we have the ability to add five impact players in the draft with a ton of money to go spend while weeding out the turds. If this keeps happening in November of next year then I’ll be concerned, until then it’s not going to cloud my judgment on Glenn as a coach or talent evaluator. There are plenty of other things we can do that with.
The Fields stuff with Glenn is the least of my worries with him. Do I think he is using him right? No, do I think he thought he could make him more of a pocket passer? I do, fact is he is just that, a bridge. I still don't give him a pass because he certainly acted like he was the second coming before the season and that's the guy he wanted but I believe we were the only ones dumb enough to believe him. Glenn is far worse in other areas than personnel.
outside of Justin Fields where has Aaron Glenn been alarmingly wrong in personnel? And what are the other areas he’s far worse than if you think he’s pretty bad than that already? I feel like everyone is thinking about the first few weeks of Aaron Glenn and not the last month or so where things have been cleaned up outside of some bonehead penalties from Jarvis Brownlee this past week which she already had a pension for doing. and to cut it off at the pass… I don’t think he’s blameless or perfect by any means
@REVISion @BroadwayAaron @NOVAJET @Jets79 https://steelersdepot.com/2025/03/w...-they-can-give-justin-fields-tools-to-thrive/ I think the most arrogant comments ever made are these: "Obviously, we want to utilize his legs, but we also want him to play quarterback, Jets HC Aaron Glenn said at the owners meeting . This offseason, we are gonna allow him during OTAs to go out there and run an offense, and we are gonna make sure we surround him with the right type of people that's gonna make him successful... We gonna let him play quarterback, Glenn doubled down. I mean, that’s what he’s always wanted to do. And listen, I’m not saying that he hasn’t had a chance to play that/do that in other places, and that’s not my issue. But I know what I wanna do with that player and obviously wanna utilize his legs, but I also wanna give him a chance to go out there and play quarterback." I guess it could be perceived as arrogance, but he did explicitly say that he is not saying that wasn't done in other places, though appears to have implied otherwise with the rest of the comments. To me though, based on the contract, it's a one year deal, and if he succeeds we basically half guaranteed the second year, so it's easy to keep him. If he doesn't, it's only half (10 mil) guaranteed, and we can move on. That is not a massive loss AT ALL when it comes to QB contract. So, he gave Fields a chance to play QB without a large commitment beyond one year, he failed, and we move on next year. There is no need to overthink Glenn's evaluation abilities here. Also, the Steelers made Fields a similar offer as the Jets: https://steelersdepot.com/2025/03/f...elds-made-very-competitive-offer-to-keep-him/. I know people are trying to say no one else wanted him, but that's just not true. Steelers, the very team that just had him for a year and saw what he is first hand, wanted him back - at a similar play. Not as FQB, they wanted the same lottery ticket as us for similar price. These are just the facts. The lottery ticket didn't cash, which everyone understood was the most likely scenario, and we move on. That's all there is to it, doesn't mean Glenn is terrible at QB evaluation.
The personnel I think Glenn was very involved with in the off season but it seems as if some of the in season stuff was more Moug, definitely signed off on by Glenn but when the big trades occurred I think that was all Moug pivoting to get some job security and distance himself from this regime that he was unfairly tied to. Now I think Glenn had a big say in bringing Moug aboard and kudos for that but ever since I think as the team collapsed it was Moug that's realized he needs to establish himself if things go sour. My biggest beef with Glenn is Glenn. I backed off the narrative a little because I am basing a lot on personal experience with his personality type and I could see how people could just see it as me being a Glenn hater with no substantial evidence as to why. I could bring up all the terrible decision making (has been marginally better the last few weeks) but that's a dead horse argument. I could bring up his overall philosophy, personnel decisions pre season, contradictory decisions, lack of feel for game flow, poor 4th down decisions, end of half/game debacles, combativeness with the press etc but again all well documented. It just comes down to what I've witnessed the last few months watching every minute of every game, every press conference and multiple news outlets. What makes me an expert? I am not a clinical psychologist nor am I an NFL scout or guru. Absolutely nothing qualifies me which is why it's an opinion not facts. I do however have a unique set of skills (lol) and deal with hundreds of people a year for work and deal with every type of person imaginable and Glenn as our HC terrifies me. Again, that's my opinion and I don't expect anyone to believe me, just when I see the next 3 years of my life with the team I love and bleed green for falling apart and I can see the outcome so clearly it's sickening. I suppose we will all find out soon and honestly I hope I'm dead wrong, just really don't think I am.
