What is the difference though? That 4 year veteran was sidelined from the start, simply because our CS knew he would be making those mistakes. Sanchez is a rookie, yes, but those kind of mistakes are not acceptable rookie or not. He is the starter, he is required to manage the ball and help this team win, he has struggled to do both. I just think that people are holding to much weight on the "rookie" aspect of it. I get it, he is a rookie, but it shouldn't be an excuse for wide open throws mistakes like that. Not being able to secure the football? That is basic stuff. Looking down your recievers on a consistent basis? We as fans realize a lot of the mistakes he is making, if we can aknowledge it as fans, how does the CS and MS not realize it? I'm just frustrated.. I guess it seems so simple as a fan of the game, but I'm sure there is a ton of things behind the scenes that we just don't understand about the problems involved. I'm just hoping for a better season next year.
Well, in all fairness, considering the great position he got time and time again because of our defense, even 16 points is not good by any stretch of imagination. Not to mention he gave up the ball at 35 yard line once, and thankfully our defense only allowed 3 points. Sanchez fucked up, there is no doubt about it. Yet we still would have won if special teams did its job. Unfortunately they didn't. The bottom line is though, Mark could and should have won this game for us, given great field position he got time and time again and the fact Atlanta has sub pair defense, poor passing defense, and loaded the box with 8-9 guys on most plays leaving ample passing opportunities. If had a below average QB, we win this game. But having one of the worst rated starting QB overall in entire NFL means you are most likely going to lose the close ones.
The one Sanchez missed was also a more difficult throw and not his first read. Clemens missed a simple pass on his first read when the receiver was wide open. Sanchez shoulda hit his too, but it wasn't as simple/easy as Clemens' miss.
All this guy has to do is manage a game and keep the opposing defense honest and he can't even do that. Watching last game (although the loss is on S.T.) was horrendous. This guy sucks, i have stopped caring about all this "he is a rookie" talk. We should be 11-3. Maybe Schotty calls the plays this way cause our QB has 20 ints... even though i still think it is time for Schotty to go. Yesterday was a truly upsetting experience.. and i think that is something all Jets fans can agree on.. truly truly upsetting
You're right about that throw, it was beautiful. It also was thrown when he had a lot of time in the pocket, and a receiver running free. I would hope he can make that knid of throw. His problem is when there is the slightest pressure, it seem to end in either a sack, into, or fumble. That's where a big time QB has to excel - in the tougher throws. I thought the Miami game would be a turning point - he brought the team back not once, but twice in the 4th quarter. But he has just regressed from there. He has been consistant - consistantly on a downward spiral. In the first few games of the season he looked confident, but he has deteriorated, and that is what concerns me. With a solid D and great running game, he should be showing more signs of controlling the game. I don't think the team wanted to pay 50 mil for a "game manager" (and he hasnt even been able to do that effectively), they wanted a game changer. Sooner or later, he is going to have to show he can win a game with his arm. I'm hoping to see that in one of these last 2 games.
LOL- You nailed it, he sucks, lol- Rookie mistakes are called that for a reason. In the beginning of the year he was just playing football off instinct and what was in front of him. After the Saints game everyone seemed to panic and the cuffs went on. Second guessing himself is not a good scenario, they need to just let him play and play his way. He's a good scrambler and throws a nice ball. By the coaching staff putting all these rules into play he's over thinking the process and those few seconds are all it takes. He'll be fine and eventually be a great QB, most ignorant football fans and Jet fans will just see, duh he dun threw 3 interceptions, ummm that right dere aint no good. Mark threw some great passes yesterday, yes also some questionable ones. In no way does this make him a bust or a shitty QB. Stop being so ignorant, like another poster said if we make those field goals like we always do this thread isn't even started.
Sure blame it on Sanchez. Everyone wants to win it all now. Forget about what this team is. Reality is, is that this team is not ready for the big dance..........not yet. Sanchez is way better than Clemens. You can see his accuracy is better than Clemens. His leadership and he gets the guys on board. On that last pick he put it right where it was supposed to go. But Braylon had to slow down on the route cause of a stupid design on the cross. He got "picked" by his own dude and wasn't where he was supposed to be. Had he not slowed down he would have caught that and everyone would have been impressed. Mark seems to be pushing the envelope quite a bit and the coaches are letting him throw cause they feel he will be ready through attrition. He has the accuracy. Let him get this shit out of his system now. Once he gets the game speed down, develops with his receivers and more importantly don't take so many chances all the time, he's gonna be a good one. To me he is a gunslinger. Gunslingers get bit more often than not but also will take the shot that gets you back in games that you need. He helped the Jets get into scoring position three times and the Jets needed those points sorely. Sanchez can't kick the dam ball. He did his job and only one pick cost points. This a developing franchise right now. The defense is looking good and have played pretty good with the big man out. The offense has shown they can move the ball. They just have to put it all together. I feel this team is going places. As far as the game overall. Leons' absence in the return game is showing and is missed. Field position was horrible but the offense was in the redzone plenty. You felt the Jets had this one and as a whole they are playing with a lot of moxie unlike previous years. This team has fire and grit. They were hitting like champs yesterday. You could see it in Atlanta's faces. They were hurting. The loss didn't feel like SOJ to me. I see a pretty good team under this 7-7 record. Anyway, I didn't think they'd win this many games, to be honest, and I like the make-up of this team. With more success all this shit talk will go away.
He's been trying too hard all season long, plain and simple. He's trying to be the franchise QB right off the bat. Gotta love his enthusiasm, but it's costing the team, and himself. He just needs to settle down, play a smart game, and he will soon develop. Everyone expecting him to show (consistent) shines of flash all season long should have realized it wasn't going to happen.
Calling him a bust is probably more emotion than anything. He's not a bust, but he needs a lot of improvement to get to where this team needs him. I think the fact that the D plays at such a high level makes the offense's struggles much more apparent. Look at this page: http://www.nfl.com/stats/team. If you didn't know, would you think the team with the most logos there would be 7-7 and likely out of the playoffs? The special teams should take a lot of blame for yesterday, and despite the defense's dominance for most of the game, Rex was right in putting it on them for collapsing at the end. Despite all this, our most consistent problem has been play at QB. He's a rookie, I expected it. I think we all expected it. I just thought we'd see a steady progression by now, but it's still up and down.
We're starting to see the importance of the checkdown. Remember how mad we'd get at Pennington for checking down so much? That was better than what we're getting now. I miss Leon Washington...the Jets miss him too, all of us miss him.
Some other points of contetion. #1 I absolutely hated the play call/formation of the 3rd and Goal from the 2 (right before the Clemens bothced FG/Xp). Even if we were winning the battle of the O-line vs D-Line (which we weren't yesterday) this is a terrible telegraphed formation. We had largely advanced the ball through the air on that drive. So we put 8 O-lineman in a big bunch and run Jones into the backs and get 6". How about a pro set formation with Cotch, Edwards (for a possible fade pass) and Keller all split out and show the defense a legit run/pass option? Terrible call. #2 The fatal personal fouls. 3 killers, 2 against our own offensive lineman. 1 caused key 15 yards of FG field position on a very windy day. There should be a big internal fine layed out against the offender for not understanding the game situation at the time.
Right here. CLEMENS FUCKING BLOWS LORDFARVE. He found a way to fuck up the game even when he wasn't even QB. Bye Bye Clemens.
u all have been ragging on clemens and his shitty talent level... look at this throw --- this guy has the same arm sanchez does http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eI2_Hm_lN2A&feature=related
That throw with that coverage in the NFL is a pick, guaranteed. You want a comparison? Look at his flea-flicker against the Steelers in '07. He under-throws a wide open Laveranues Coles which direcly leads to him getting injured.
I can't believe there seriously are some Jets fans that are putting that loss on Sanchez. He led the team into chip shot FG range 3 times, which the STs botched each time. He also threw a strike to Edwards to give them a 1st down in FG range again only to have a dumb ass personal foul by Jones to take them out of FG range. The O & D did more than enough to win the game on Sunday, dumb penalties and 3 STs breakdowns is the cause for the loss.
i saw a ball that was in line with what sanchez threw sunday.... i can't wait till they bench this beaner and give ainge a shot.... ainge has more of a resume than mark... his arm is far from a noodle as well
