Is Robert Saleh the right person for the job?

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  1. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    Will he? Maybe as a coordinator. We're the only franchise dumb enough to instantly hire a fired head coach. Most franchises stay away the year after they get fired.

    I like Flores but they fucked up that whole Tua/Fitzpatrick swap last year in the heat of the playoff race. I don't know if that was all his call or what.
     
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    that is bad coaching though. From day 1 of training camp the coaches should've been working with others calling the D for the chance that CJ Mosley (who missed 30 games in the previous 2 seasons) might actually miss a game in 2021.

    teach a vet like Marcus Maye to call the D all training camp. Then you dont have to teach a late round rookie to do it in one week
     
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    Agree completely about it being way too early to fire a head coach but shakeups within organizations and reassignments happen all the time when things break down. Sometimes guys get let go and sometimes they get pushed down to a different position; head coaches even get let go midseason and sometimes an interim coach is pushed into the position. No coach can afford to throw away two thirds of a season if it's getting worse instead of better, especially following a bye week. As far as who would go to work for a coach who would fire someone six weeks in, my answer is a guy with the confidence in himself to believe he's better than that and it could never happen to him - that's the kind of guy you want.
     
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  5. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    I can't get behind relieving a person of their duties 35% into their first season. It looks desperate. You need to give the guy the full 17 games and I'm sure they will.
     
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    Not true

    Andy Reid
    Kliff Kingsburry
    Ron Rivera

    3 current head coaches that were instantly hired after being fired by someone else
     
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    Yes!!! Damn 6 games with a bunch of rookies starting. You guys make laugh.

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  8. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    I guess. 3/32 is exactly my point.
     
  9. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Speaking of hiring fired coaches, the Jets shoulda went with Doug Pederson instead of Saleh. That was a big mistake. There'd be no lack of experience with this team right now. He has a ring and he woulda brought in Zach Ertz at TE and Jim Schwartz would be coaching this defense
     
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    Desperate is a good word to describe the Jets this season. LaFleur brought in his scheme that his players cannot perform and has been consistent in the way he uses it regardless of the results. Each week, especially this week we expected some change, some adjustment. It shouldn't take half the season to figure out what's wrong when it's obvious to everyone that the team has not put a first quarter point on the board, that total scoring is the lowest in the league and there is no indication that changes have been made to make it any better.

    There is also no indication that any such changes will happen in the next eleven weeks. Why waste those games when you can be improving the team now while looking towards next year? Move on, promote somebody already here and simplify the schemes while matching play calls to the players who need to make them. Every game that goes by before that change happens is a wasted game.
     
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    You got that right,. It looks like Saleh wants to be a friend to his players, not a coach. No discipline, and TOTALLY unprepared at the start of a game, especially after a two-week bye. It amazes me watching the last few weeks, especially yesterday that the jets seem to have NO OLB play. Slant patterns are wide open with no LB ever in the throwing lane. Every time a team runs wide, a safety makes the first hit 10 yards down the field. Screen pass--OMG--it is worth 25 yards a pop v. Saleh's jets. WHERE ARE the OLB in Saleh's scheme? This was Mac Jones and the Pats, who have only beaten the jets and Texans this year. Rich Kotite always stopped practice early so that he (Kotite) could beat the traffic home. Does Saleh need to get home to his 7 young kids? This team has more talent than last year but the coaching stinks. I seriously doubt the jets win again this year if yesterday is the measuring stick.
     
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    My guess is that Saleh believes in his OC and doesn't want to pull the plug after 6 games especially when his defense has been arguably just as bad.
     
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    The team IS seriously regressing
     
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    Which does nothing to help the team. Shaking up the offensive coaches sends a message to every person in the organization that progress, at this point, is more important than victories and if they're not making progress someone else will be given the opportunity.
     
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    It'd be a great move but Saleh is too much of a coward to do it. I don't know how he didn't see this being a potential issue when he hired his best friend's brother as OC.
     
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    Nobody wants to can a friend but if they can't they shouldn't be in the job. I'm not even calling for him to be fired, there may be a different job for him but his game planning and play calling are simply not working.
     
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    Maybe they were gassed.... have you considered that? :confused:

    Seriously... there should be a focused discussion on the defensive scheme being run.

    I'm not a defensive guru by any means... but I've watched a shit ton of football.
    We're getting spanked by mediocre teams... and it's getting worse. The Titans win was an outlier it seems.

    Our defense players are consistently out of position to make plays... add that to the weak ass tackling and you have the recipe for failure.
    We rely on pressure up front to force the opponent to either run or make quick decisions that leads to mistakes.

    We're getting eaten up between the numbers and steamrolled by screens.
    Teams don't need to test us with vertical strikes when they can methodically march down the field... eating clock and scoring points.

    If it's a personnel problem that's one thing... but I don't think talent is the problem.
    We should not be giving up 31 points in one half of football no matter how average the players may be.

    Our Bend Don't Break philosophy is bent & broken... :confused:
     
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    I don't disagree. I think it's a failure on many levels.

    Although I'm pretty sure the signal caller would be a linebacker rather than a safety.
     
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    Steamrolled by screens? It looks to me that Saleh's team has never once practiced how to defend a screen pass.
     
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    The linebackers are not NFL level players. The staff could do a better job scheming to hide their weaknesses without a doubt, but still, there is an enormous talent gap when you got these guys playing linebacker, none of which would see the field for any other NFL team

    linebackers that played defensive snaps in 54-13 loss to NE
    Jamien Sherwood
    Del'Shawn Phillips
    Blake Cashman
    Quincy Williams
    Noah Dawkins
     
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