Is Chad a team player?

Yes...He is a team player, and there is no way he is taking an $8M cut. The guy won a playoff game (almost 2) with a torn RC...if that's not a team player than I don't know what is.

Should he restructure...Yes...Is he going to take an $8M cut...Hell no

 

I agree with a lot of what you're saying here. However you'd be an idiot for doing that if you were Chad. If cut, he won't get close to the $9 mil he's currently set to make (pre cut). For that reason you have to take some cut. I don't think I'd take quite the cut the Jets are reportedly offering, but I'd take a major cut. Even if you had to swallow your pride and go from $9 mil to $3 mil that's likely more than he'd get on the open market at this point.

 

Thats only half true. NFL Contracts arent contracts in the everyday sense of the word. A good portion of that money is for Ego purposes and never meant to be paid out, the way it is laid out at signing time.


Every one knows that going in, and given Chads circumstances (22 mil over 18 games played) he should be amenable to ALOT less than 9 mil this year.

4 Tops. And part of the Jets request is not to keep from paying it, just to call it an incentive Bonus to defray it from the cap, till they get more worked out.

 

So you walk into work Monday morning and your boss says we need to cut your pay how do you react?

 

Is Chad a team player? Of course he is. He is whether he takes the pay cut or not. It is a very tough situation. One of many. We can;t pay a guy $8M if he may not play, or may not play up to a competitive level. I do not think he will ever be Montana caliber, nor do I think we are capable of going to the Super Bowl with him. He is injury prone, that's it, pure and simple.

Even if his shoulder heals fully and he somehow comes back to a competitive level of play, which I do not hold real high hopes for, he could very easily re-injure the same shoulder in a heart beat. I don't see how it can be the same. I think he desrves a chance to come back, but I think that chance has to come on favorable terms. I agree that the original pay cut suggested by the FO was low balling, but it has to be expected. I think they should find a meeting ground somewhere around $2 to $4M, just as people have said. Although, I would favor toward the lower number of that.

Chad never asked to be injured the way he has been, but he was hansomly paid for it, as we all know. Nobody should feel guilty or sorry over this; it is just cold business.

 

Thats a bad analogy. Heres a better one: I skip work for 2 weeks, and I come into work the monday after and my boss says "I'm sick of paying you vacation pay. Either I fire you, and you get no more money, or you can actually come to work and produce results, and I'll give you what you were getting for just showing up the past 2 weeks (years for Chad)."

In the real world, people get threatened with being fired if they take too much time off for an injury, or if their results slip. Chad has done both. I don't understand why people insist on defending athletes. Nobody "deserves" that insane amount of pay. I think he's been more than fairly compensated. Let's be honest, Pennington is a backup QB. He came on for Vinny one year and played lights out for 10 games or so. Plenty of backup QBs come in and do well for a short period of time. Don't get it twisted, Pennington didn't pull a Tom Brady and then continue playing at a high level for years. Pennington is more like a Jeff Garcia or something.

 

If no Chad Pennington then who? I dont want Bollinger or Fiedler.Id rather have kingsbury start.Hey who knows he might be the next Tom Brady if this is the way we are thinking?

 

its kinda excessive that theyre asking him to go from 9 mil to 1 mil. i can understand them asking him to drop down to 3 or 4 mil, but i can understand him not wanting to fork over 8 mil. And its also kinda f'd up that Management would propose that, knowing he'll say no, then run to the media with it, making Pennington look like a selfish ass. Its f'd up.

 

Great analogy. I would only change the part about taking too much time off to the prescribed amount of time off. But, he is paid to play, and the Jets as an organization have been more than understanding about what has happend too him and what he has gone through.

 

Actually, I think we would do far better with Bollinger. Granted, he is not a world beater. I did see him take a few nasty shots last year, and at least he didn't break like he was made of glass. He would be a fine #2 under the right situation or if we had to give him his one chance next year at leading the offense in yet another high risk reward scenario, I would be OK with this too. We are not going to be an elite team next year, that much is certain.

If Bollinger had quality personnel around him, you could win with Bollinger. I know a bunch of you won't see it that way, but I will stay with my opinion. Anything he accomplished last year was done on shear grit and inner strength.

He had no support from the offensive line, he had no running game that was reliable (CM was played all year with an injury to get 1000 yrds), he had no support from the head coach. What he did was all because of Bollinger. You can not just look at the 2 wins he was able to get and say he sucks. It is not fair.

 

A better analogy would be saying that you got hurt while on the job and you missed a year because of it... do you get paid? Yes.

 

Look I dont think a guy not wanting to go from 9 mil to 1 mil doenst make him a team player, most people in the nfl bitch about 9 mil a year

 

sorry not most but you know the people i am talking about

 

He's not a player at all - if he takes a cut he may be a "Team Bench Warmer"

 

I don't blame Chad for keeping the money, hell why would he agree to the pay cut? I don't ever blame a player for saying no to a cut in pay. Take what you can when you can. I blame the team for giving a injury prone QB made of glass the big contract.