Interesting Article on Tannenbaum

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  1. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    ding ding ding.

    think about it...it's your job to scour the country looking for the next tom brady only to have all your work tossed aside for the opinion of a HC who's never drafted a QB in his life.

    it'd piss me off.
     
  2. Sisyphus

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    First time poster :)

    The Jets GM job is similar to the Raiders last year, the issue isn't the cap it's the players that are taking up the biggest chunk of the cap.

    Look at what Reggie McKenzie had to do this year, gut the roster of all the mediocre players that were given huge contracts knowing full well that he can't build the roster back up for at least 2 more years.

    I would keep both Mike T and Rex and make it clear that we are building through the draft and that this is Rex last OC hire (if he fires Tony). If there isn't a culture change next season in the locker room and if there isn't progress on the field towards a decent offence then both are gone just as all the guarantees are expired and the Jets become a more attractive option for prospective general managers.
     
  3. BeastBeach

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    This makes Rex look bad imo
     
  4. ajax

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    This article shows even more why Tanny should be kicked to the curb ASAP. WTF is he doing there as GM? He's just a brainless puppet. Part of Tanny's job is to accept input from Rex & combine that with all the info. he's receiving from other sources (like scouting dept). He's not suppose to just jump on everything Rex wants blindly.

    Replacing GM is more important than keeping Rex. There's a serious problem with talent acquisition & no HC can overcome that. If new GM wants Rex then fine. If new GM wants a new HC then we've gotta accept that too.
     
  5. Hobbes3259

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    Injuries aside, we have a pretty solid roster on both sides of the ball.
     
  6. ajax

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    I think it makes the whole Jets organization look bad (including Rex). Nothing wrong with a coach having an opinion. I think all coaches should have opinions & be allowed to speak to their GM about what they like/hate about an upcoming draft. What is really bad about this article is that Rex has was too much influence. Rex should be one a voice not THE voice.

    HC opinions should not be so heavily favored as to make these fulltime scouting departments worthless.

    Which is why I'm disagree with the idea of keeping Tanny. Tanny was unable to maintain the information channels & curb Rex influence. This organization needs a solid football guy as GM who's not a pansy & agreeing to everything his coach wants.
     
  7. GoldenShowers

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    This article was a classic lesson on cherry picking.

    If Rex is so massively influential in the draft picks, why was Stephen Hill selected? It is a matter of fact that Rex did NOT want Hill. How could this have happened if the drafting is all Rex?

    Are we to believe that Rex Ryan had a hand in drafting a second round piece of trash from UMass? You know that college Tannenbaum went to? That same college that if any professional had watched would have seen the real talent in Victor Cruz???

    The bottom line is Tannebaum is the GM. He is ultimately responsible for gathering the information given by the scouts, the coaches, and his own research and making an informed decision. If Tannenbaum ultimately took the wrong advice or leaned on a coach to much, THAT'S ON HIM, and is STILL grounds for firing.
     
  8. 101GangGreen101

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    This makes it all more easy to fire Tannebaum. He should of made the decision based on his scouting department, not Rex Ryan. You're having people do your job and they made some wrong decisions, so he's going to pay for it. Tannebaum is easily influenced. That's a characteristic I don't want my GM having.
     
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  9. Br4d

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    Tannenbaum is going to get fired for trading up draft after draft and only getting a couple of good players out of that strategy. If the plan was to give up depth to accumulate good players on the front lines, well only half of that plan was enacted.

    It's been more than a decade now of watching this plan at work and the Jets are .500 over that span. What exactly is going to change if Tannenbaum and Bradway are retained?
     
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  11. Hard not to agree with this. This Bradway/Tannenbaum era has been petrified of just staying put & trusting in their scouting department's evaluation & taking the best player.That's the easiest way to build sustained success. Have good talent evaluators who build a good big board & take the best player. Get input from everybody including the HC,make a big board & stick to it.But this group tends to over play their hand.
     
  12. Red Menace

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    While these articles are interesting, it boils down to the same thing, a GM who does not know what he is doing. The product on the field is his, I don't care what the coach wants you can't deviate from the plan or the board as someone mentioned.

    These articles show all the more reason to get rid of this spineless clown. The more I think about it Rex should be fired also, if you are undermining the work and the recommendations of scouting team it means you are not on the same page and don't trust them to give you the best players to work with and purposely derailing the organizations plans.
     
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  13. PuMa

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    Agreed.
    He isn't a football experienced GM he just signs deals and hands them out, which is partially why he will be sent on his way he cant evaluate draft picks and pick out talent and Gholston is the perfect example if you need a reason.
    although it isn't ALL his fault it falls on Tanny there are no excuses. This season and last have to result in an immediate cut off of someones head and its him. so lets just get it over with already.. but I do think its a stupid idea to fire Rex given that he has upgraded this defense from 2008 and nobody can tell me different.. just Tanny and Our god awful OC
     
  14. The Brit

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    Tanny should go for sanchez contract alone...an utterly baffling decision
     
  15. Wahoo

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    Sanchez, Wayne hunter, brad smith, Plaxico Buress, Tim tebow, Braylon Edwards, Vernon gholston, running back situation, decimation of draft choices, 10 then 9 then 8 then 6 wins.

    Bye bye Tanny
     
  16. Big Derty

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    When you write a detailed article that aims to provide insight and get a simple fact wrong in the first paragraph, you lose me immediately. Stephen Hill was not a first round pick, credibility of all that he says in the rest of the article has to be questioned.
     
  17. Br4d

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    Here's the thing about the Jet's situation that bothers me the most. It's like the organization is a bunch of warring camps that are leaking on each other all the time. The trickle of bad news on an endless basis has been going on since the loss in Pittsburgh in the AFC championship game.

    Sometimes it really stands out, like the anonymous sources stories, but for nearly two years now we've had a situation where little trivial things trickle out that portray somebody in a poor light or at least not a favorable one.

    The culture of the Jets has become bad recently. It's looked like a listing ship just waiting for a storm to come along and sink it.
     
  18. CaneJet

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    It's damning. Tannenbaum is supposed to be the GM and he lets coaches pick players, ignoring the scouts. Might as well fire the damn scouts. Pussy. Go back to being a capologist if you're too afraid to take ownership of a draft pick.
     
  19. al_toon_88

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    Rather have Casserly as GM
     
  20. LongIslandBlitz

    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

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    This ariticle makes me wanna see him fired tonight instead of tommorow it doesn't change a thing for me
     

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