Inside the Crazed 7 Day Spending Spree that Transformed the Jets

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  1. VaBchJet

    VaBchJet Active Member

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    I thought this was hilarious, your humor wasn't lost on me. "Billboards" come to mind first.
     
  2. TonyMaC

    TonyMaC Well-Known Member

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    THANKS JOHN IDZIK! ;)

    Couldn't have done it without you...
     
  3. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    The sub-text here is that we're setting up well for the future.

    Mac ain't lucky...he's good.

    And so is Bowles.

    Don't look now..we are relevant once again.

    And our best football is ahead of us.
     
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  4. Quinnenthebeast

    Quinnenthebeast Well-Known Member

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    Even though he is not liked, no one has given credit to Woody. He had the balls to fire a GM who wasn't working out even though everyone says you must give a GM more than 2 years to pan out. He also learned from the past and talked to real football people to help him get the best candidates to come here as opposed to that "consulting firm" that dug up Idzik. Say what you want, but I do think Woody wants to win here.


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  5. Ubiquitous

    Ubiquitous Well-Known Member

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    The moves have been great so far, but it's only four games into the Maccagnan era, so I think the enthusiasm should be tempered.

    We won't have an accurate picture of how good of a GM he is until at least a year or two down the road. He'll ultimately be defined more by his drafting (and maybe who he chooses to NOT sign) than his signings in free agency - also, and this should be a given, he needs to find a franchise quarterback. So far, so good, but we were all very high on Mike Tannenbaum years back and he turned out to be an average drafter who made bad free agent signings. Conclusion: give it time.
     
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    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

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    we will see. i dont judge him on the free agents/trading for contracts as i will his drafts and how he manages a tight cap.

    he inherited 50 million in cap room, a top 6 pick, and a team with nowhere to go but up(4-12, worst qb in football).

    im not saying he didnt do a good job, moreso that he had a ton to work with and was starting from rock bottom. my views on him will be on how:

    1) he transitions from an old team to a young team. if you look at some of our best players... revis, marshall, cromartie, fergeson, mangold, they are all pushign 30 or in their 30s. how does he replace those guys or does he overpay to hang on to them too long?

    2) how he manages a tight cap. he is going to have to make tough decisions on fergeson, wilkerson, harris, and marshall. LT is going to be a big challenge as our choices are sign brick or go with a rookie or retread. not great with already poor qbs under center. how does he handle the wilkerson contract, sheldon when he wants more money, etc.

    to me that will be what writes his legacy.
     
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  7. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

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    that will be determined from what he does in the drafts from here on out. right now our young core is:

    geno, Williams, Richardson,wilerkson, harrison, Pryor, Devin Smith, Mauldin, powell, enunwa, kerley, amaro, carpenter, winters, coples, davis, skrine, gilchrist, mcdougle, milliner, williams

    thats the guys on our roster under 27. some excellent dlineman, but outside of that not a ton of young talent. especially in key positions. we dont really have any good young talent at:

    QB, LT, Edge Rusher

    CB we have some decent young guys. not much at WR/HB/TE

    to set up our future mac is going to need to find replace those spots with some youth
     
  8. Ptflea2

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    Cliche Alert! .......... "Rome wasn't built in a day" but "so far so good."
     
  9. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    It's a little early to anoint him. I like what he's done in terms of making this team competitive quickly although we may be in a similar position to 2009-2010 where we're loaded everywhere for a couple years but quarterback and have to dismantle the roster after we experience success.

    We're right at the cap limit this year with essentially no wiggle room at all. It's easy for a general manager to spend a ton of money in free agency. He will be judged by his ability to draft. Can Williams replace either Mo/Sheldon (looks like yes), Devin Smith replace Brandon Marshall after next season (??), Mauldin become enough of a threat on the outside to be a full time 3 down starter? Can Jarvis Harrison eventually be even a middle of the road starter along the offensive line?

    After next year's draft we'll have a pretty good idea of what our GM has done and if he's going to stick at this position. If he can find a way to add a starter at nose tackle, right tackle/left tackle replacement in 2 years, inside linebacker, and find someone to replace Ivory then we'll be in good shape always waiting for the quarterback to come around.

    Ivory is an interesting case. We won't be able to afford signing him to a big extension, but if he keeps going at the pace he's going he's going to end up with numbers that warrant somewhere in the neighborhood of a 3 year extension worth $20+ million. We can't really keep him at that price and hope to resign Wilk at $13+ million.

    Runningback is a complete unknown for the 2016 Jets.
     
  10. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Harris isn't going anywhere despite the fact you hate him. He's perfect for this defense, and the only legitimate linebacker on this team right now. D'Brick is still a solid player but needs to restructure his cap number down. Mangold as well, but it'd be tough to ask an All-pro player to take less money.
     
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  11. NCJetsfan

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    I wasn't posting on this board then, but not all of us were high on Tannenbaum. He was a bean counter and attorney and had zero experience in scouting and personnel. I knew he wouldn't be any good, but hoped I would be proved wrong. I wasn't.

    While given the Jets sorry history with GMs (probably the worst of any professional team in any sport), Mac looks like the real deal at this point. It may be too early to have clear cut proof of how good he is, but at this point he's clearly already light years better than any of his 4-5 predecessors, and imo, that's something to celebrate and enjoy. He is mature, smart, disciplined, seems to have a great eye for talent, understand how to build a team, and have a plan for building the Jets. He's aggressive, but not wildly so like Tanny. I can't imagine his failing down the road. The only way I can see that happening is if he fails to find the Jets a quality starting QB.
     
  12. pdxdrew

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    Boy. You said a mouthful. The Jets scouting and personnel department had a streak of futility that boggles the mind. I almost wish someone would do a time line of the various GM'S and directors under Hess and Woody. It can't be pretty.
     
  13. Acad23

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    Woody aside...I think we're in better hands now.
     
  14. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    You know you're having a pretty good season when people are falling all over themselves to quote Harvey Keitel's "let's not start sucking each other's dicks" line from Pulp Fiction constantly.

    Nobody wants to be the first guy to enjoy a better than average season in Jetland.
     
  15. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    I agree that Woody wants to win, and he is willing to spend money. I give him credit for that, and for finally realizing his limitations and seeking help from quality, respected and experienced football men. Hopefully, it's a sign of a smarter, better owner in Woody.
     
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  16. DoubleDecker87

    DoubleDecker87 Well-Known Member

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    Fantastic read

     
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  17. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for posting this. It IS a great read.
     
  18. DoubleDecker87

    DoubleDecker87 Well-Known Member

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    No problem. Went to post thread but it's very similar to the OP story. Tried quoting in a post it but story was too long.
     
  19. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    When I read the article in your link, I thought I was reading the OP article. Somebody at one of those two publications did a fair bit of plagiarism.
     

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