Read.. http://www.nyjetscap.com/salary.html If you mean why do I think that is the only reason they would cut him well that just makes sense. Otherwise the prime target to cut would be Ferguson and they can't possibly do that because of the cap hit they would incur. Ferguson still can't run block at all.
Yeah, that's what I don't get. If we cut Moore, we would save $7 million in cap room. However, we would have to sign someone else to replace him and that would take away a few million from the $7 million. And someone else posted that Moore has a relatively cheap contract as soon as the roster bonus is paid. I also don't think that messing with our OL (probably our best overall unit) is a good idea when Ryan wants to run this "all weather offense".
Cap hits for franchising a player by position: QB - $14,651,000 RB - $6,621,000 WR - $9,884,000 TE - $4,462,000 OL - $8,451,000 DE - $8,991,000 DT - $6,058,000 LB - $8,304,000 CB - $9,957,000 S - $6,342,000 K/P - $2,483,000 http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=293096
Your numbers must be off...or generalized, because a franchised LT makes way more than a franchised guard. The franchise tag for LT is the second highest franchise tag to only QB...guard is not.
Damn, I've been up for the past 2 nights studying for exams. That's what a lack of sleep will do to you
I thought they generalized for the o-line franchise tags. What you're saying makes more sense though. edit: Everywhere I can find these numbers they generalize for the o-line. I cannot find it broken down by position anywhere. http://profootball.scout.com/2/834635.html http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/...t=AsQTxdksVWTSKqDk_.NKkZlDubYF?urn=nfl,137990
I get the fact that they save money BUT, there is certainly a sentiment around the league that Moore is OK player. He is an above avg run blocker and a borderline liability in pass protection. Simply not worth the money.
A roster bonus gives the team flexibility as opposed to a signing bonus, does that answer your question or are you asking why the contract was renegotiated at all?
c'mon Don. He's not a great run blocker but he improved in that category quite a bit in '08. He's nothing special when it comes to run blocking yet, but to say he can't do it at all just isn't true. If he has another good off season in terms of bulking up I expect that he'll be even better at run blocking in '09. We may be surprised.
Bro...I want to know why Tanny put a $ 7 million roster bonus in his renegotiated contract last year knowing full well we would not be paying it this year. That is all. ...and ftr, there is a reason Don has that least knowledgeable award under his name...isn't even worth talking to him.
I dont have any inside info..but I think alot of this maybe Moore and his agent's personal doing. They realize that if they arent willing to negotiate a penny of the given roster bonus(whether its warranted or not) that he will indeed be released which will allow him to to cash in via free agency at the peak of his career and frankly at the peak of his resume. If that's the case..it puts the jets in a tough position. A 7 mill cap hit for a slightly above average interior lineman is a tough pill to swallow and if Moore isn't willing to negotiate a penny in hopes of a bigger pay day...there isn't much the jets can do. This is all speculation but I have a hunch there is some truth to the matter.
Where is this "liability" crap coming from? He's not great in pass protection, but official numbers give him 2 sacks allowed this season. Woody has 6.5.
It was a way to keep a player happy over the short term, while giving the team the option as to whether or not it wanted to commit to him in the long term (the answer is obviously no)
1st off you are comparing apples to oranges in comparing a tackles sack numbers to a guards. But even so, my understanding is that the Jets pass protection scheme had to be focused around compensating for Moore. This part is just speculation, but playing next to Moore and constantly being on an island can contribute to Woody's inflated sack total.
I posted this the other day in one of the 8 million other Brandon Moore threads, but I'm guessing Tanny wanted to retain him while giving some assurances that he would play up to the contract. Remember that Moore was coming off a very average season, meaning a signing bonus was a dangerous prospect at the time if we decided to cut him before this current season. There was a provision written into the contract stating that his roster bonus could be converted to a signing bonus if he played well. That's the baffling part. They haven't simply converted that roster bonus in order to spread the money out. It's my understanding that it's already in the contract. Either we're concerned with saving 3 or 4 million, or we're trying to tie him up for more than just the next 2 seasons and are running into stumbling blocks. It grows more and more intriguing as each day passes and he's still a Jet.
Thank you for finally addressing my thought. I had the same idea. His request for a contract renegotiation came out of seemingly nowhere last year. It was handled quickly and quietly. The $7 mil bonus seems like the type of thing a good agent would have put in there, not a good GM. And Tanny went along with it to either shut him up for the year, or because he thought he wouldn't be as good as he was. At this point though, Moore loses nothing by converting the roster bonus into a signing bonus, since he gets either one up front. The only thing he can be thinking is that he'll get a much better back end than his current contract while realizing at least the 7.6 mil in 2009 that he is due.
