If we play Mangold at Guard, who sits?

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  1. vilmatic

    vilmatic Active Member

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    I wouldn't be surprised if Teague starts the season at center. I think they'll ahve Mangold backup at center until he's ready to make line calls rather than have him play out of position at guard and struggle with that transition AS WELL as struggle with learning line calls.
     
  2. PennyandtheJets

    PennyandtheJets Well-Known Member

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    THAT is a possibility, but there is no way they put Gold at either Guard position.
     
  3. AlioTheFool

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    Yeah, there is no chance Mangold plays any position but Center. This CS won't make the same mistakes as the last one, playing guys out of position, simply to get them into the game.

    Teague will probably get a third to helf the snaps this year. Mangold will get the rest.

    Kendall was not a bad center. He struggled early, but got more comfortable as the year went on. That said, he will never play center here again, barring any significant injuries (hope not!)

    We'll have a mostly young line this year, and I am happy with that. In a year where the team isn't expected to compete, it makes sense to let everyone have their growing pains, before it matters.
     
  4. DROB63Cmart28

    DROB63Cmart28 Banned

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    Mangold starts at center end of story hes a great player and knows what hes doing on the field. He wont have any trouble I think.
     
  5. NYJ1012

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    you have to hope that mangold can play center in tennesse in week 1, but ur right, he could definitley struggle trying to recognize NFL blitz schemes in his first season. with that being said, i think the jets 5 best offensive lineman are dbrick, kendall, teague, jones, and mangold, leaving moore out of the equation. if mangold played RG, i think the jets could really get some great production on the offensive line.
     
  6. theanalogkid

    theanalogkid New Member

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    Even Mawae played G his first year. C is a pretty difficult position. Someone is going to be left out, but that's a good thing, since we now have depth.
     
  7. Hot Rod

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    Mangold will play center for us and here's why:

    “Nick is incredibly smart as a center. He took care of all Ohio State’s line calls and got their offensive line set,” said Coach Mangini. “He’s a good young player. He does have the versatility and team leadership traits that are exciting qualities for us.”

    Mangold comes to the NFL from a very successful Ohio State program. He started 34 games throughout his college career and made the switch from guard to center, proving important versatility. Mangold is also credited to having a very keen sense of football intelligence, which will help him quickly adjust to the speed of the NFL and the Jets system.




    http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/articles/show_article?article_id=664&short_name=news
     
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  8. Capt. Spaulding

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    I read the title of the thread. I read no responses. Mangold MUST start at center. START(day 1) at center. The Brick pick is good and all but a center with the apparent smarts and ability of this guy is so much more. Def. formations and blocking schemes.....You could park a car behind Ramsey(yeah, I said it) and if it don't know who is comming from where then before you know it we will have Chad in there(3rd stringer) trying to find religion. If he is going to struggle a bit his 1st year as a starter it may as well be this year when, more than likely,the team will struggle a bit anyway.
     
  9. 28rogerblaze51

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    Players of mangold's caliber get thrown in the fray at once, learn as they go, and besides kendall can call the plays from his guard position while mangold learn's.

    Kendall will stay at guard, kendall is the closest thing we have to a pro bowler in the OLINE, at center he is above average.
     
  10. nightowltom

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    I agree. I think Ferguson will start from day 1 but center is another story. I think some fans don't fully appreciate all of the reads (shifts, possible blitzes, etc.) that a center must make, figure out countermeasures, and then call out blocking changes--all in the few seconds before the snap. Constant shifting teams like the Eagles and Patriots confuse even veteran centers, let alone a rookie trying to pick up the complexity of the NFL. Teague is an adequate center and can play the position well for a few weeks while Mangold learns. THEN later in the season he would probably take over with Teague the backup.

    Pete Kendall is a very good guard. For all of you who think he can play center, every opposing inside linebacker looking to bulk up on those sack stats would like to thank you as there's nothing they'd like more than to see Pete playing out of position thus weakening two positions in the line at the same time.
     
  11. GreenMachine

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    Center=catcher....for those into baseball....But until we have a Peyton back there....let the Rookie observe...
     
  12. jetsfan119

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    First of all there is no way they drafted the best C in the draft to make him play guard. A good game at C for Kendall is a bad game at C for Mangold. also I think that the line should look like this...

    LT-D'Brick
    LG- Moore
    C- Mangold
    RG- Kendall
    RT- Jones

    I dont like Moore and Jones together anchoring down a whole side of the line
     
  13. NY2MD_FS

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    My thoughts exactly. He's starting at center period unless he somehow regresses during TC.
     
  14. iceman

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    I don't know why everyone is so high on Moore. No way does he start. I think Mangold is a lock for RG. We don't need anymore "athletic" O-lineman. Just someone how can knock the DT off the line on 3&1.
     
  15. JetsTillDeath

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    Yea, I have heard whispers, not from Randy Lange but one of the Gentlemen who does the Jets on SNY, this is lastnight after I started this thread, that he feels Kendall will start at center, with Mangold and Moore as guards, leaving Teague the odd man out.
     
  16. JetsTillDeath

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    Actually, this is the exact reason why I started this thread. Mawae did it, and I feel Mangold will too, its a solid formula. I would say sit Mangold and let him learn, but it serves him better to be out there on the field seeing it first hand and experiencing all that comes with it.
     
  17. xjets2002x

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    Teague is a backup quality player, who can play both center and tackle. That's why he was brought here. I think this team has had Mangold on its mind for months now. It was pretty much as sure a thing as there was in the first round if was there at 29. Teague was insurance. He wasn't an above average starter in Buffalo. Judging by the way they played against us, you'd think that the Bills were world beaters running the football, but they were terrible last year.

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  18. JetsTillDeath

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    I think many of you gentlemen who have posted in this thread are a bit over anxious. Yes Mangold was a first round pick on the O-Line, and most of the time this does warrant starting right away, but Center is a bit different. Can you imagine Chad in the pocket with his arm just recovered in week one, and Mangold misses the blitz in the B Gap, guy comes in a clobbers Chad...I do not feel Mangini will let this happen. Mangold is capable, and he will be an excellent center and leader, but the move from College to Pro at the center position is not an easy one, it takes time and patience. He may be intelligent, and knows the game, this is why he is a first round pick, but he is not a starter in the NFL just yet.
     
  19. baamf

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    I don't agree. Plug him in at Center from Day 1 and get him all the snaps you can in TC and pre-season. Teague is not the answer and is probably more likely to get our QBs killed than Mangold. Comparing him to what Mawae went through is not fair. First, Kevin was not as polished a center coming out of college. He played mostly LT and only played 11 games at Center his Senior year making 2nd team All SEC. Not to mention that the Seahawks had 6 time probowler Ray Donaldson as their Center when Kevin was drafted in the 2nd round. Mangold has been playing Center his entire College career, and is the best prospect to come out at the position in year. The Jets currently have nobody on the roster who can do a much better job, better to start him now and let him learn. Sure he'll struggle here and there, and definitely needs to gain some strength but IMO it's best to take your lumps early with this guy....
     
  20. JetsTillDeath

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    Very solid points on Mawae, I stand corrected. I feel that throwing Mangold in there right away as a rookie can bring up many problems, including injured QB's and trouble in the running game due to unblocked LB's on defensive audibles. Do you suggest he make the line calls as a starter, or as some have suggested, allow Kendall to make them from the Guard position? Honestly I feel Mangold would be an upgrade at guard for a year, over both Moore and Kendall who play there now. Then after a full year of playing at NFL speed, agains much faster and more intelligent competition than he did in college, he will be ready to go.

    I am not opposed to him starting at center if this is what the CS feels is the best thing for the offense. But my gut tells me they will not start him right away, that is why I posed my original thought, of who will sit? Cheers on your a good response.
     

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