If RGIII is available, do the Jets make a move for him?

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  1. TurkJetFan

    TurkJetFan Well-Known Member

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    Right and if he doesn't you lose him after 1 year at the cost of a 3rd?? Sign him when he's cut on your own terms. And for 16 mil he'd have to suddenly become a top 5 qb which is unlikely as all hell. This is why I'm saying trading for him makes no sense. His contract virtually puts the jets in a lose lose situation.


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  2. pclfan

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    Even if RG3 was good he's not worth the 18 mil fifth year option. But he's worth the 6.7 he's due in 2015. If he struggles in 2015 he'll be salary wise etc in the Mark Sanchez stratosphere. Who would have thought that after 2012.
     
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    He is only due $3.27M this year but they have to pick up the $16M option by May 3rd. Pretty much makes it cheap enough to keep him this year but probably not tradeable if they pick up the option. If they try to trade him before May 3rd the team trading for him would want to negotiate an extension first which Griffin probably would not want to agree to opting to show he still has it this year in hopes of a larger contract when he hits the market in '16.
     
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    I've been wondering about the whole RG3 being injury prone thing. There is a difference between someone being injury prone and someone's injuries not being handled correctly IMO. It may be that RG3 would've been brittle anyway, I honestly don't know, but doesn't it seem like all of his troubles seem to relate back to the original injury? It was that injury that was handled improperly and from which he has never properly recovered. To me that isn't being injuryrone so much as his health management having been for shite. (Maybe I'm cutting an extraordinarily fine line here...)

    As for RG3 as he exists today. If he came cheap I'd snag him and then let him sit a year. I would have him rehab the hell out of his injuries, get back into top shape, and then slowly get back into top form. Most importantly, I would give his body time to fully recover. Modern medicine can do a lot of wonderful things, but sometimes extra time can do wonders. If he is ever going to recover I think it will take time and simple patience. Most importantly, it will take NOT re injuring the same damn problem.
     
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    b.reyes16 Well-Known Member

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    16 mil is not top 5 QB money. Don't get me wrong. If he were cut I'd rather get him that way but it seems unlikely.
     
  6. TurkJetFan

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    If they're going to try to trade him it's bc they have Mariota. If not he's going nowhere either way. So he's just as likely to get cut bc no team in their right mind will trade into his contract situation.


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  7. pclfan

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    I think he is also due around 3.4 from his pro-rated signing bonus for a total of about 6.7 for 2015.
     
  8. TurkJetFan

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    The not willing to restructure part is what makes him impossible to trade for under the circumstances it would make no sense. For this reason he'd be likely to be cut.

    Unless a team can get a renegotiated deal in place first of course, which as you correctly note would be highly unlikely to occur.


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  9. BrowningNagle

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    I'd look into it.

    He could be the redemption type. An ultra talented player who got caught up in early success and needed to almost lose everything before he gets back to focusing solely on his craft. A trade for peanuts out of Washington might be just the ego busting move to do that for him. I also think getting away from Snyder would be good for him as Snyder hasn't helped his development/ego by kissing his ass his whole career.

    I'm not worried about his contract because he would restructure, despite the many doubts on here. He's not stupid enough to refuse a restructure if he went to a new team or he'd end up on the street.
     
  10. FlaJet

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    At this point I'd take:
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  11. The Waterboy

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    It is just pro-rated as far as cap hit goes, he only gets the $3.27M this year. Any team he went to, if under the same contract, would only owe him $3.27M and have a $3.27M cap hit.
     
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    I won't argue that because I'm not sure. But check Sportstac http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-redskins/robert-griffin-iii/. Unless I'm reading it wrong it says for 2015 he's due his salary and the pro-rated remainder of his signing bonus.
     
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    If the choice is sign a new contract/extension with one team or be a free agent I think he would chose to be a free agent and have multiple teams offering a contract. It would not be a restructure unless Washington picked up the $16M option, then I would say the chances of a restructure are almost nil.
    In a QB hungry league he would have multiple teams bidding for his services, he would not be on the street, he would be kicking back in his $2.5M home for a few days until he signed his new contract.
     
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    It's his signing bonus which was paid when he signed. All signing bonuses are prorated through the life of the contract, that is how teams get players at lower cap hits. They pay the big amount up front but it doesn't all hit the cap at once, if it did a player like Suh would have a $26M cap hit this season.
     
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    Because of the contract and option, a trade that makes sense is a 5th rounder to Washington now. If the option is picked up or an extension signed, then a 3rd round pick in 2016 is added to the deal. A one year year rental with a chance at striking QB gold at very low risk for the Jets.
     
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    The Jets do not have a 5th round pick this year and a 5th and a 3rd is too much to give up.
     
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    I wonder about that knee. Might be a lego knee. He needed a lot of work. I see some Bradford in him, when it comes to fragility.
     
  18. TurkJetFan

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    Sorry but no. Why on earth would he restructure when his value is low and his option is worth $16 mil. If he hit he street off a rebound year he'd get more money than restructuring today and would get to choose a team.

    He'd be more than wise to refuse a restructure and control the outcome while maximizing his value.

    He has literally zero incentive to restructure today with the Redskins or any team for that matter.

    If he's cut this offseason that's ideal for him bc the same teams interested in a trade would just bid for him under a new contract. And if his option is declined next year he'd ideally have more if not worst case same value as today.

    The only team I could see dumb enuf to trade for him w his current contract are the Browns. But mostly bc they are pure desperate top to bottom offensively.

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  19. boozer32

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    If that is the best option then the season is over before it even begins. RG III is done and his injury made it worst. I wouldn't take him if he was free. We can do better and will do better. I'm not liking Fitzpatrick but he is better than Smith and Simms. Draft a QB late and see what you have. I heard Testaverde is working with the East Carolina QB. That is free scouting right there just call Vinny and see what he says.
     
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  20. TurkJetFan

    TurkJetFan Well-Known Member

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    Ppl are looking at rg3 trade in a vacuum and really not understanding the contract situation. We will not trade for him i guarantee it.

    And if we do trade for him for some reason, without a reworked deal in place (which ain't happening) I'll be absolutely furious.

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