That's bullshit dude. He couldn't take snaps under center at all. Did you see him when he came in? He could barely handle the shotgun snap as well. Not to mention handing off or trying to run with the football. No QB plays under those circumstances because you are hurting the team. Favre would be about the only one and thats only because he is dumb as fuck and would've gone out there whether he was hurting his team or not
Oh yeah they'd have been on the sidelines. Odds are he tore all the ligaments connecting his thumb to his hand. He said after the game that his thumb dislocated on the play, which has happened in the past and when he popped it back into the socket it popped right back out and just hung there. That's when he took a knee and called the trainers over. His thumb was likely just connected to his hand by the skin at that point. I can't believe he went back in the game. It was like Chad going back in with his shoulder hanging by a thread when Fiedler got popped.
maybe he made a mistake by trying to pop his thumb back in on his own. I'm no doctor but I know that in a dislocation you have to be careful with relocating because the ligaments are under a lot of pressure. Just because he was able to pop it back in in the past doesn't mean he should've tried it on his own that time. not blaming fitz for anything and its certainly possible the ligaments were toast before he even did anything just saying
It's just really sad that we had something going with him and then his flaws emerged and destroyed it. It's not like half the board and all of the media weren't predicting him to go down at some point because he was reckless with his body downfield. It's just too bad it happened before the Jets had 7 or 8 wins in the can. Chad, Favre, Sanchez and now Fitzpatrick were all wrecked by mid-season injuries at one point or another. It's like a curse.
seriously....word is his thumb wasn't even staying in the socket. More to come from his MRI today hopefully it's not major and he'll only miss a couple of weeks. I give Fitz a ton of credit for coming into the game for those 2 snaps. I have no doubt he'll play through the pain, but he HAS to be able to grip the ball to play, pain aside.
I heard torn ligaments in his thumb. It depends on what type of cast they can put on and if he can grip the ball (doubt it). You can't throw a one armed QB out there, he'll get crushed. I'd say his season is likely over. It doesn't matter if its Flynn or Mallett neither can manage a game like Fitz (who isn't great but is a classic game manager). With their schedule they still have a shot to get to 8-8, 9-7 if VERY lucky. The AFC sucks so bad that 8-8 may get them a wildcard.
To me it comes down to this..... After the Geno - IK incident I was pissed because I really thought the signs were there and things were in place for Geno to have a good year. I certainly don't call myself a big time Geno supporter, but I always felt he got a bid of a bad wrap and wasn't really put in a position to succeed. I was definitely one of the people thinking he was a better option than Fitz. Then after a few games I realized Fitz demeanor, calmness and overall command of the team outweighed Geno's physical advantages but always had in the back of my mind "I think Geno could be good with this running game and offense and WRs." Let's be clear - we didn't lose yesterday because of Geno Smith. The defense played as bad a game as we've seen in a while. With there defense giving up score after score and 3rd down after 3rd down we had no shot to win..... But ANYONE thinking this team has a chance with Geno playing QB is either a relative or just plain retarded. After having the chance to sit and reflect on his past mistakes you'd think he would have learned something. He clearly hasn't learned anything at all. Nothing. He is not an NFL QB you can rely on. No way. Maybe a backup. This guy is a mental midget. Those two sacks running out of bounds and his taking the hit on the sideline are THE SAME MISTAKES he has always made. The SAME MISTAKES. He doesn't learn. Forget the INT to Woodson. Those things happen. Woodson has gotten the best of the best. He was trying to drive the ball down field....bad pass, bad play, good play by Woodson (and I hated the call by the way.....ww didn't need that at that point in the game) The two sacks he took and the hit on the sidelines and more of the drifting back throwing is the same movie we've watched over and over. But this is who we are stuck with over the next few weeks. Hopefully everyone gets behind him and cheers for him and doesn't boo at home because he is all we have so whats the point? But if you think Geno Smith is the answer to any question except who is the dumbest QB in the league, then you better get to drinking.....
I am disgusted by this loss. Disgusted with the team overall for the loss. If anything, Geno looks even more immature out there. Anytime I am outside the hash marks I do not get sacked. How can he not know this by now. I kind of think Fitz has torn ligs and I think the season is done
Nicely said Abyzmul The spot light was on us and I think we got totally exposed by Oakland on this game. First game under Bowles where we were not prepared, nor did we make adjustment in the second half to correct that. My observations 1- Our OL without Mangold is poor at best. They got manhandled and completely suffocated our running game. Colon was pushed around and overpowered by their front four. 2- Our D is not even close to be as good as we thought, at least they didn't play like it. We looked out of position, we missed tackles left and right, we got duked out for massive gains, secondary was below average, Revis was off, Cro was dreadful, YAC allowed was absolutely inexcusable. 3- Geno is not the answer. It didn't take long to form an opinion. His mental aspect to the game, football formation awareness and inability to preclude telecasting passes is a non starter. Apparently to add insult to injury neither QB was given some firm direction to slide or get out of bounds. While at least the team was able to rally under Fitz, it collapsed under Geno. 4- Marshall and Decker are our heart and soul of the O with Ivory. We need an OL and QB that can exploit that. 5- All in all...a terrible performance by the Jets. Yesterday we took a huge step backwards, both in performance and key player injuries.
Lets face it, the Jets QB position is a mess and has been since 2007. That's why I was never overly excited about this season, even at 4-1. The NFL is a QB league and you need a star franchise player at QB or your team is not a SB contender. Fitz is a physically limited journeyman whose ceiling was an average season with 9-10 wins and a playoff birth. Been there done that for 15 years now. I'm s not enough. He's not going to b come a better player next year. There is a reason he has been on 4 teams in 4 years. His arm is weak, and for a smart guy, his decision making is questionable. He's gotten away with numerous poor throws and his refusal to slide was bound to catch up with him. So even with Fitx, this team was in the QB hunt this offseason. He's a hold the fort guy at best. The problem is we don't know who he's holding the fort for. I wanted to see Smith play this season because the physical tools are there and the ceiling is much higher than with Fitz. But he just does not have it between the ears. He made three or four completely idiotic plays yesterday, from getting clocked on that long run to,the inexplicable sack on third down with three minutes to go. He's just not smart. It's clear to me he is not a starting NFL QB, although yesterday's loss had absolutely nothing to do with him. So I hate to say it, but this season is probably lost. If so, putting Petty in makes no sense. He's not ready and he'll,be ruined in a few games. He may not be the answer, but to find out he needs to ride the bench this season and compete for the job next year. The future QB of this team is probably coming through the draft, which means a 6 win season might not be the end of the world. The win against Tenn last year cost us Mariotta and one or two,years of time developing a future QB. The future is very murky.
Well, with the way his team was playing in that game, why in the hell would he have wanted to extend the game?
I've been all over Geno for his "situational awareness" yesterday, but I've left out one of those gaffes. How do you let yourself get clocked in the field of play in a full sprint with 20 yards worth of momentum when there are no other active QB's and Jeremy Kerley is your backup? That in itself should go down as situational awareness. Know the consequences of getting knocked out of the game, guy.
No sacks is glaring No takeaways in 2 weeks...this is surprising. I'm looking at Bowles. He failed to get the team up for Oakland. Huge letdown, but not nearly the end of this story. Win on Sunday and the Jets will be flying high into Thursday night. Just win this Sunday.
Same could be said for Fitzpatrick. He's been an injury waiting to happen all season and that chance has been all about reckless play. BTW, the folks in Indy say the same thing about Andrew Luck. He's too reckless with his body when he runs.
It's also an indictment on Fitzpatrick but at least he had a backup. Geno just chanced Jeremy Kerley becoming an NFL QB for a day. They both need to learn to slide.
