In addition 2/3 of the roster is new this season. If that doesn't constitute a major rebuild, I don't know what in the heck does.
What does this even mean? If you've been a fan longer you should know this would not be a colossal failure. The past 15 years could be considered golden years if you compare it to the 15 years prior. 1-15 is a colossal failure. Firing a coach after one year to bring in Rich Kotite is a colossal failure. Qualifying for the playoffs once in 11 years with an 8-8 record to boot is a colossal failure.
Hell yes It would be a failure. When your playing the last game of the season and it a win and ur in and u lose. It a failure.
Not necessarily, the Kansas City Chiefs, went from 2-14 to 11-5 and the playoffs with a change in the FO and the coaching staff, they did the exact same thing the Jets did. There was talent on the Chiefs, the same way there was some talent on the Jets team that went 4-12, the talent was being used incorrectly by the previous CS. If the jets had zero talent with a poor CS like the Cleveland Browns or the Jaguars, then yes it's a major rebuild.
The Jets have a top 10 offense and a top ten defense, they have a good HC and a good GM, they draft well and the CS makes good adjustments during games. That's why I would be happy. However at the end of the day, they have the same goal that every other team has, make playoffs and win SB, select players and develope them so they can help them accomplish that goal. They are in complete control of their future, if they don't accomplish that goal this year, then how many years down the road are they planning for? I understand the whole upward or downward trajectory that teams are heading in, that's why Kelly was fired according to the Eagles owner, did not like the direction the team is going in. I understand how fans can be ok with the turnaround the jets made this year, but as a fan, I expect one thing and one thing only, playoffs. I don't root for the jets to have a good season, I root for them to make the playoffs, it may be harsh but that's all I root for. That's just me.
He has a point big guy. I mean really this didn't warrant it's own thread. You could've made your point in a number of other threads. Here us an example of a thread that could've supported your question. http://forums.theganggreen.com/thre...t-the-buffalo-bills.85946/page-5#post-3390269 You should always consider this before just making a new topic so we can all enjoy a more streamlined discussion.
Before we play Sunday, I can say I've been more happy than not with how this season has unfolded. A lot of excellent things have happened, and we have young players who will only get better. A loss on Sunday won't change the fun I've had with the previous 15 games. But it will mean the fun has ended way too soon. I'm amped for at least another 4 games!!!
Let me get it straight... The only way you look at 10-6 team after 4-win previous season and call it a success is if prev year they had roster full of scrubs? It doesn't matter that FO is different, that organization is no longer the butt of every joke... first year HC, different personnel, aging OL, sucky ST.... None of that matters. But if Jets finish 11-5 vs 10-6, than all of the above is of huge importance and the team is success right? Ok... Let's move up one week. Let's say Jets won in Buffalo, but lose in the first PO game to Cinci. Still failure, right?
Rex has nothing to do with this, id feel the same if rex knocked us out as i would if andy reid or jeff fisher or anyone else knocked us out. i wouldnt a colloasal failure, i wouldnt even say it was a failure. id say it was a mild success. it would suck because we chocked away the playoffs vs. an inferior team, but that doesnt undo what the team did winning 10 games. i would say, if we lose, it certainly IS SOJ though,.... just a typical hjave your fate in your hands and piss it away to a bad team kinda thing. if we were a younger team, maybe you gloss over that, but we are an older team
I just can't call a 10 win season a colossal failure. I just can't. Especially when we are talking about the Jets.
A disappointment perhaps, but I wouldn't consider the season a failure because the Buffalo Bills beat us in week 17.
It's going to be a disappointment when and if we lose. And we likely will within the next 3-4 weeks. But compared to the failure of the last few years, no, this has been a successful year regardless of what happens Sunday. _
I guess the crux of the matter is what you expected this team to accomplish. If you thought Jets will go 11+ win this season, than 10-6 is certainly a failure. I personally thought this was 7-8 win team; maybe 9 if things really brake our way. So at 10 wins already in the bag, IMO this is no failure. If you honestly tell me you expected 10 wins min, I'll accept your feeling that this is a failed season. But if you expected less, then by definition Jets exceeded your expectations and what you're doing now is just moving the goal posts further and further. If so, then you're just looking for a reason to call this a failure.
I picked us at 10-6 on here. If we lose it's not a 'colossal failure' as far as I'm concerned. It would be a really bad loss tho....real bad. Failure no But considering the bottom we hit on top of all the circus bullshit, it was good season all in all. With some hope that we'll be in the hunt next year also. Kinda like the first year of Parcells after Kottite. The low of Idzik and Rex was similar in my experience. Mac and Bowles have started the curve up again too. Hey, one team wins. Luck, Providence, Fate, game luck, all have a say. Right now we're in the hunt and I feel we have a legitimate shot at doing some damage...and that's a good thing Go Jets!
+2000 Savage thread I am Already with the agita bout this game tomorrow and it 6am saturday morning I want to throw up all over the weak pussies who doubt Bowles and the whole team
Let's get back to the original question, Colossal failure. I don't think it would be a colossal failure, i would consider it a failure because as I explained before, this seasons Jets have gone past the point of being satisfactory, if they had finished the season 8-8 or 7-9 after a 4-12 season it's something to build on. The only reason teams change GM and CS is to turn the organization around, make the playoffs and win a SB, from my perspective they are beyond that at this point, they have what every team wants, to be in control of their playoff destiny. The changes worked, and the team is on the cusp of taking it to the next level, I don't understand how hard it is to see why a loss to an inferior bills team, with the playoffs in your pocket is SOJ territory, almost is not good enough for me anymore, make it happen its that simple. If they make the playoffs and lose to the Bengals in the first round, it's not a failure, it's where every team wants to be at the end of the season, in the playoffs. Teams that are consistently in the playoffs are what we want the jets to be, losing to a better team shouldn't be anything to be sad about.
