I remember the Pats burning us on a nearly identical play 3 or 4 years ago. If it works, game over. I thought that was a great call. The fact that J-Mac blows is another can of worms. The sooner he is gone the better.
Hard to tell if it's the play calling or Pennington, I can’t believe that he can’t go down field when the D has 11 men essentially on the line of scrimmage telling him he sucks? He made up for it in the second half but he is like a boxer who has been knocked out afraid to take a punch until he has gotten a feel of the game. The Dolphins were defending the line of scrimmage to about 5 yards back the entire first half and Pennington refused to try and open it up. In fact he was throwing WR screens with the CB practically lined up on the Jets backfield. And how many times is he going to throw a third and 6, 4 yards into coverage? I decided the entire first half O was our version of the Rope-A-Dope. We got Miami so comfortable not defending the field that we were able to make a couple of plays in the second half down the field to win this game. The sad part is the Dolphins are not the boxing equivalent of George Forman, they are more like Chuck Wepner. They are a truly bad football team and if we are afraid to attack them and open it up at home, what happens when we play a good team? As far as the play calling, it really falls on Pennington to check off and throw down field when a team is cheating up like that. Why in the first half he didn't is beyond me? A win is a win but we beat a really bad team at home and looked like a bad team doing it.
The playcalling has been atrocious, it started out great the first few weeks but he last few weeks it's been terribly conservative. yesterday was a joke and it's getting worse each week, I want to see the O we had the first month of the season.
that damn wide receiver screen pass will be the death of us!! mark my words!! Its a completely absurd play, that has no place in the NFL.
It does work sometimes. Santana Moss scored touchdowns a couple times with it last year. He did it against the Chiefs for sure.
There were some bad playcalls, like the 3rd and 2 and another 3rd down attempt where they ran this ridiculous roll out that failed but I think alot of the difference between the first few weeks and now is Pennington. He was absolutely terrible yesterday. The only 2 semi long passes he threw in the first half were floaters that the receivers had to make leaping twisting catches on. He's getting back into the ridiculous check down nonsense, luckily in the 2nd half he started giving Coles a chance to make some plays and we scored 2 TDs.
I agree about Chad, he hasn't looked the same since the indy game. hopefully he gets back to normal quickly as we can't afford to stub our toes the next 2 weeks.
point taken, but the negative yardage and the almost intercepted, batted pass behind the line of scrimmage does not seem like an incentive to continue trying to catch lightening in a bottle.
It can work but the QB read on that play was terrible. The CB wasn't giving any cushion at all. He was in the backfield almost as fast as the pass got out to the WR. The WR screen is effective when the defense is respecting the downfield passing game and isn't cheating up. That was a horrible read by Pennington and could have easily cost us a TD the other way.
Agree with everything read generally. Not a great day on O. Our running game still so-so. Pennington was not agressive enough in the first half. Our defense, letting Miami get back into the game, has me very concerned. We had them down and didn't go for the throat. Instead, we started playing not to lose and almost did. Scary. Oh well, a win is a win, but this was not a pretty win. This kinda leads me to believe that we may very well lose one of the last 2 games before the bye. We are definitely going to have 2 very tough games after the bye, followed by 6 winnable games. On paper it looks promising, but our team is not a 11- 5 or 10-6 type of team. If we attain that it is because we super over-achieved, but would be very weak as a playoff team. I wouldn't complain though, but I would expect very little. Realistically, we will likely lose a couple of those last 6 games either due to bad O or very bad D or a combination of the 2. I still see us as a 7-9 to, at best, a 9-7 team. That is it. And, we would be kind of a weak one at that. We still need more players, but I do believe we are in good hands. We still need at least one more draft and FA market, if not 2.
The genius Martz who got fired!!! What are you talking about we can't beat Detriot,thats the dumbest thing I've ever heard..Please tell me your a Detriot fan because then it would make sense. its week not weak..spell check aisle 0.
the interesting thing, which i think many are neglecting, is that we have so far won the games we are supposed to win... a phenomenon which seemed to be nonexistent up until mangini took over.
I was simply responding to QBclassof83'K.O'brien's claim that the play has no place in the NFL. I might agree with him if he wrote it has no place in the Jets playbook. I like the play if the QB has a gun. On that particular play, the pass must get to the receiver quickly. It's not as effective when the pass comes from a QB with an okay or subpar arm.
I would have run. BUT--if you have been watching belly for the last 5 years -- thats what they do -- they go for the absolute kill in that situation. Guys, the other team is trying to win also. THis was a very good win. Next.
I don't think it's the play calling. Chad checks down his receivers way too quickly. He always has. It's always been Chad and it always will be. That's who he is. He can't zip a ball into the numbers on tight coverage, so he checks off to the short route. That's Chad.
