So why are we talking about him then??????? Let's trade for Larry Fitzgerald too while we are at it. I'm sure he can be had for a first or second round pick?
Well, Smith is almost certainly more available, considering he's requested a trade in the past and the Panthers are moving towards rebuilding. It's a move that has "Tannenbaum" written all over it.
History also shows that a 37 year old WR with that knee injury is going to fall off. Pass on TO. And Moss... no old WRs. Its not what you want to do with this offense.
He has mentioned he wants out of Carolina more than once, that he doesn't want to spend the last few years of his career on a rebuilding team. There are better articles out there, but this is the 1st one I found
I have gone back and forth on this issue many times, I really hate to lose either guy and it's hard to seperate them but I think I will go w/ Holmes and then signing Moss as a FA. I really want to keep Braylon though.
I think Randy is motivated, if we sign him we probably get one good year then he reverts to not trying but it shouldn't be for big money so it could be worth the risk. Again, I want Braylon and Holmes but if we lose Braylon I'd be happy w/ Moss.
You really can't mean this, tell me that you dont. The Patriots who had great success with him got rid of him because he just quit playing, Bill couldn't even get him to not be a slouch. Moss was CUT by the Vikings, they lost money and a player simply because this guy was such a disturbance, a disease they were afraid would spread in the locker room. Then when he went to the Titans where we had ZERO impact and teams treated him like a #3 WR with little talent, once again a hall of fame coach in Jeff Fisher couldn't get anything out of this guy either.
I tend to agree with him, junc. I think Randy Moss is more of a risk/liablity than an asset at this point. If he doesn't get his way, he tends not to play nice with those around him. There are more suitable options on the market. The Jets should pass on Moss and not think twice about it. I know you're going to say "oh, but he's motivated. When Randy is motivated, he can't be stopped". I don't want to take anything away from Mark...but Moss was unstoppable because Brady was throwing to him. We need to be realistic here.
Regarding the OP poll, I have long preferred Braylon as the better choice to sign. I would love to keep both, and Cro, too, if there were a way to do that. But if you can only take two of those three, I would pick Cro and Braylon.
I understand all of that but for ONE season I think he's going to look mroe like the great moss than the slouch. The last time people thought he was done was after NE traded for him, there were even rumblings NE was going to cut him before the season started. The thing that won't make him risky is he won't command big dollars and if he screws up we can let him go w/ little or no penalty. Moss was unstoppable w/ Daunte Culpepper, jeff george and Randall Cunningham too. Brady certainly helped get his career going again but when this man tried he's the greatest I have ever seen. If he had Jerry Rice's work ethic he would smash all of Rice's records.
Those days are long gone, junc. And Moss's ego has also increased with his age. His behavior last season was very telling to say the least. His ego will command a decent salary, if you think he'll sign for the veteran minimum or anywhere near that vicinity, I think you're in for a surprise. Some desperate team will shell out the $$$ to bring him in. I just hope it isn't us.
It was only 2 years ago that he had 1,200+ yds and 13 TDs. A 3 year span w/ oak saw 2 non 1,000 yd seasons and a 3rd just barely over 1,000 and people thought he was done. My preference is for Holmes and Edwards but if we lose Braylon I'd be fine w/ Moss.
I'm not saying Moss is done...the guy is a WR phenom. It's the baggage that comes along with him that causes problems. I mean, complaining to the media about the food being served...are you fucking kidding me? Rex and company don't need these types of distractions. If the Jets decide to take a chance on Moss and sign him. I'll support him of course....but i'd be lying to you if I wouldn't be sitting on pins n' needles waiting for him to cause problems. We're on the cusp of being a superbowl contender...I really don't want to see the team take any steps back because this guy needs his ego fed.
Risk vs Reward, I'm not seeing it. He just looked like he hated playing the game last year pouting about it the whole time and like MB said his ego will come into play when he's ready to get paid. For the cash he will ask for I believe in this same category of {older than 30 risk involved players} I would rather have TO coming off knee surgery, who I don't think would ask for as much money as Randy and played far better than Randy last season. Dont mistake me bringing up TO for a first choice he's not, just a compairison of two players in the risk/reward category. My first option would be: 1) Steve Smith (Car) 2) Vincent Jackson/Malcom Floyd 3) Steve Breaston 4) Mike Sim-Walker 5) James Jones 6) Legedu Naanee 7) Santana Moss This is the order I would target players, I know some may not agree with this order but it's how I would do it. Also Santana being on the bottom is because he is the least likely to be acquired I believe the Skins will be able to keep him and I'm sure he would want a hefty pay check.
I believe all of those guys will cost more than Moss, Moss is not getting big dollars unless it is an incentive laden contract but either way the risk will be low. Either he'll produce or he won't get paid. I think the risk is very low w/ him for that reason. IF for some strange reason he wants big dollars then I wouldn't touch him.
I would just hate to have his attitude and malcontent infect a single member of our close knit locker room. Our NY Jets have such good chemistry, for someone to come in and taint it or to get in Sanchez's ear between plays isn't worth it if he does play well and plays for free in my eyes.
I'd be extra cautious with the SD receivers. I feel that they are more a product of the high-powered Charger offense and the arm of Phillip Rivers. I guess it's possible that their entire crew of receivers is that good: Gates, Jackson, Floyd, Naanee, etc.. but I think you could put any shmuck out at WR and he can garner some decent numbers. This also applies to the New Orleans Saints receivers. It'd be similar to putting a running back behind the Jets O-Line. He will instantly look better as opposed to running for Detroit.
I don't think anyone had the balls to tell him off in New England or Minnesota before withering away with the Titans. If Moss came to the Jets and started acting up I'm sure one of: Rex, Bart, Mangold, and even young'n Sanchez would tell Randy to shut up and play ball. Otherwise, GTFO.
