Extremely unlikely this is the case. Idzik has no guarantees that he won't be going out the door with Rex if the season degenerates into a collapse scenario. Of course since the media is speculating on this manic-depressive Jets fans will jump all over it, carefully guided to the wrong conclusions by trolls. The NY/NY media does very little in the way of providing reasonable analysis. They do a lot in the way of stirring up random speculation to sell their column space, air time, etc.
The question is what does John Idzik see? The idea that he is sabotaging Rex to set up his own head coach is pretty preposterous on the face of it. You only get to be an NFL GM once in most cases and spending a season trying to get your head coach fired when in fact your tenure may be associated with his is extremely unlikely. To the point of vanishingly small in fact. Now throw in the fact that Idzik saw the Jets depleted talent base go 8-8 last season with a rookie QB throwing picks by the bushelful and he knows Rex went 9-7 once before and to the AFC Championship game with a rookie QB throwing picks by the bushelful... Well that's the kind of head coach you try to find a QB for and that's what Idzik is doing right now. On that you can depend.
Right. Jet fans are manic. I was a little down myself Sunday. My main problem with Geno is that he has regressed from Game One. He is playing better teams, yes. And I thought before Sunday that he was clearly better than he was last year. I guess Sunday just looked too much like last year. My point about Idzik not getting fired is just Woody's vanity. He may not think he made a mistake (I surely don't) but even if he did, he does not want to look the fool. Anyway, this is all moot. They are not going 4-12. And this division might be up for grabs.
Of course you can. Someone who is actually better than someone else can do it. You know these things they call upsets? Those normally happen when a team with less talent beats a team with more talent. It happens when someone outplays another without it being an equal playing field. You replace Vick for Manning (the good one) and you would see how one could outplay another without it being on "an equal playing field". Vick however, just isn't that good. If he was, then he would have found somewhere else to go. He knew he would be behind Geno this year, so if he really wanted to play, he would have gone somewhere else. Nobody else was willing to give him that chance. I thought I saw a stat where Vick had 27 turnovers in his last 29 games. When you add in how injury prone he is, I don't see how you think he'll be better than Geno. Even if he does come out and play better, it won't be long before he is injured and you're right back to using Geno. It was just practice, but if you go back and look at the reports, Vick had a lot more days where he would throw INTs and just couldn't hit open WRs than Geno did...a lot more. And that had nothing to do with Vick playing with the 2nd team. But to say that you can't outplay someone without being on "an equal playing field" is well...retarded.
Vick came here because they paid him 5 million dollars and he new Geno was not that good. You must have been watching a different preseason I saw Vick run offenses get in the endzone I saw Geno run offenses kick field goals. Sound familiar?
The Lions have made every QB they played this year look bad except Cam. Eli looked like shit in week 1, Rodgers looked bad, and Geno looked bad.
Thanks for the info. I did not think Geno threw the ball well, but I also did not think he had a lot to throw to. And that line did not let him escape. He had only one good chance to run for yardage that I could see, and he inexplicably threw a pass across the field. His decision making seemed more confused Sunday.
Some credit goes to the Lions defense for certain. But even then he still made boneheaded decisions. I missed the 1st half so I didn't see that across his body throw.
Nonsense. Plenty of Jet receivers were open with good separation. Smith could not find them. He sucks.
I blame some of this on the Jets philosophy or Rex's Philosophy for a young QB. It hurts a young QB to say just don't make mistakes they hesitate and never develop. Rex Ryan teams need a Vet a Qb to reach their full potential. Alex Smith would have been perect on this team. With that being said we have a Vet sitting on the bench and some point we have to play to win not to lose and that is with Vick. If we are thinking about drafting another QB Rex should go.
Anyone still want to argue Geno isn't being forced on Rex? When Rex was asked point blank whether he had the authority to change QB's in game he said every decision is a Jets decision.
I'll admit I was wrong. I wrote yesterday that there was no chance it wasn't solely Rex's call, but after watching that press conference, I have the exact opposite impression. However, I also still get the impression that Rex wants to be loyal to Geno. The way he talks about Geno, you would think he was talking about Andrew Luck. And I'll write it again here, after watching that press conference, I am convinced that there is no chance Geno gets benched anytime soon, barring a complete meltdown (something like 4 picks and a fumble).
I heard this segment too this morning. I came on here to see what people thought about it. The way Greenberg put it, Rex basically SAID "it is not my decision" when asked why he wouldn't consider benching Geno. Like, it was Idzik (or Woody?) who was deciding it. I hadn't heard this, I assumed it was something that came out in the presser yesterday or something? Mike and Mike were discussing it as such, and talking about how Idzik was sitting on his 20 mil, ready to give it to his new HC in February... Greenberg was disgusted. He was like, "if that's how it is, if Rex isn't allowed to make decisions about who plays, if they are basically sabotaging him by forcing him to play Geno, just fire him now and be done with it!" If this is true, is it being reported anywhere else? I feel like ESPN, the NY papers, etc. would be allover this. EDIT: I didn't see the last couple of posts for some reason. So it IS something he said at the press conference.
He didn't flat out say "it's not my decision." He gave a vague, frustratingly moronic answer that it's a "team decision" and "Jets decision" and refused to say that it was his decision to make. His answer gave every impression that it isn't his decision to make. Which, in my opinion, is really bad.
You don't bench him for his mistakes, you bench him because he's clearly not ready. Starting him is doing more harm than good and will hurt him long term. Same mistakes as with Sanchez are being repeated, Rex obviously hasn't learned a damn thing
