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Because if we held onto Rex again, we would end up with another incompetent GM. Most of the guys last time backed off the job because they didnt want to inherit Rex...... Idzik only got the job because he accepted the conditions, otherwise Idzik was likely never going to get a GM job in the near future, so essentially this was his only shot so he took it under the condition of retaining Rex.

Its the wrong way to go about things, look at Chicago, they another team that hired a GM under those conditions, the GM had to inherit Lovie for at least a year, the Bears are now a disgrace under Phil Emery, who basically took the job under the same conditions Idzik did. Of course Emery fired Lovie after year one but its still the same situation because they both had to inherit a head coach...

 

And looking back, the Jets should have held onto Tannenbaum for another year, 6-10 was his first non competive playoff season after 4 straight years of being relevant week 17. He also lost his best defensive player for 14 games, he lost Santonio Holmes for 12 full games, he lost Keller for 8 full games. So perhaps that Jets team was more along the lines of 8-8 but the injuries set them back to 6-10.

Tannenbaum did know how to build a contender, we saw him do it, and nearly execute it. He did put the Jets into "cap hell" but if that 2012 team was healthy, things might have been a tad better. Rex should have been tied to Tannenbaum, and Tannebaum should have gotten another season. So then had they failed in 2013, you bounce em both together rather the way we did it, so essentially we cost ourself a season. This rebuild could have started last season rather this offseason.....but its also entirely possible that Tannenbaum turns it around in 2013.

 

I think Rex had some decent talent to work with - but I think he's got a negative influence on the offense - that can't happen.

 

Geno is what he is......good, bad, indifferent. It's Rex's job to evaluate Geno and make the decision as to whether he is the best choice to lead the Jets. Rex (and Idzik) failed in that decision.

 

Thats not the point though, all I am saying is a quality general manager IS NOT coming here if they have to inherit Rex. None of the guys that the Jets interviewed wanted the job last time because of Rex, so we ended up with the 4th or 5th guy on the list, who was not a good quality GM. Idzik sucks, and if we keep Rex, and hire a new gm, we will end up with the guy at the bottom of the list and not the top guys......

And to add, this is not a indictment on Rex, its just the way it works, GMs want to bring in their own guys, period, not inherit.

 

This is the biggest fallacy perpetuated on these boards. Rex was forced on Idzik, then Rex was extended by Woody not Idzik.
If Idzik does not have the power to fire Rex, how can anyone reasonably believe that he had the power to tell Rex what to do and what players to start.

2 years ago Geno and Sanchez were neck and neck in training camp with neither really rising above the other. When Rex put Mark in the game during garbage time of a preseason game he sealed who his starting QB was.
I know it is hard for some on here to comprehend, but Vick is a worthless turd as shown by his on field performance this season. Geno as terrible as he is was the better option to start at QB. Rex wants to win -- he has said it over and over, he started Geno because at that time it is who he felt he could win with.

 

I am confused by the title.
are you asking someone has a question?

 

2012 the curse of Mark.

 

Agree with most of your comments, but lets not absolve Idzik and put a crown on him yet. His handling of the draft in reference to the huge holes at WR and CB was simply dismal. It was almost impossible to miss on a good receiver on the 2014 draft and he did just that.

 

I am not crowning him -- but to act like he ignored the CB position when he drafted one in the first round his first year, the top prospect and on most draft boards had him as a top 5 pick, and then used another early round pick the following draft is revisionist history. They didn't work out as planned due to injury but it wasn't ignored.
Milliner was a solid pick -- 20/20 hindsight is great and all but it was the right pick at the time.

At WR he signed one of the top free agents, I am not a Decker fan and personally did not like it, and he drafted 3 others. Once again 20/20 hindsight is great, but to act like he ignored or neglected addressing those 2 positions is just ignorant.

Bottom line is I don't trust Rex and his staff to evaluate and develop any offensive talent, maybe one of our 3 WR draft picks could have been an NFLer just as if we had drafted some of the other WR's they may have been cut by us as well.

 

Rex has done a terrible job of coaching the team this year. That's why he's getting fired. Getting your team up for games against good teams while they routinely suck against lesser teams indicates an inability to manage the game-to-game and week-to-week realities of an NFL franchise.

If the broom comes out on Monday the list of culpability is going to run something like this:

1. Rex Ryan for failure to do enough to maintain the coherency of the effort on the field and for the chaotic sidelines exchanges that happened all season long. The penalties, particularly on the offensive line, were killer also.

2. Geno Smith and Marty Mornhinweg for creating the worst Jets offensive effort in two decades. There's just no way to gloss over how bad the offense has been this year.

3. John Idzik and Terry Bradway for blowing two straight drafts and then getting very unlucky when both young CB's they were counting on got IR'd pre and early season.

 

Ugh, what does not having your own coach have to do with not addressing positions of need, failing to get a WR in one of the best WR drafts in NFL history with 12 picks at your disposal, poor talent evaluation…etc?

 

He gets a lot of the blame because he deserves it.As long as I'm alive I will never forget the Buffalo game when he threw three straight ints on the same exact play three times in a row,The guy just isn't very smart he makes Mark Sanchez look like Bart Starr

 

Didn't Lovie win 10 games the year he was let go by the Bears?

 

Yes. No playoffs tho. What a mistske this outing him without having a better upgrade.

 

Rex will be fired, this like many other things in the Jets history of futility will come back to haunt the organization. Rex has done a solid job and been given nothing to work with.. Yes, he could manage a game better and get more involved in the offense, not really a fireable offense. Teams that have the best history ride there coaches through tough times and build around there philosophy. Idzik has done the opposite, depleted a roster and failed to address team needs and rex strengths. He was set up to fail. After, last season debacle and rex finished 8/8 I honestly thought he should resign. I knew this was gonna happen to him. It's total bs.

 

Here's the issue Rex cannot overcome - this Jet team is has more talent on paper than a 3 win team. It has more talent everywhere but CB than last season's 8-8 team. I'm not saying this is a playoff caliber club. But this should be at least a 6 win team and Rex has to be accountable for under achievment.

 

Blame gets shared by everybody. This is a team sport.