I think your math was slightly off. Anyway, I can turn that around and say that before the Jets scored to make it 27-21 it was: Jets: 18:42 Pats: 27:34 That's a 8:52 difference. You're talking about the defense being on the field for 27:34 by the beginning of the 4th quarter. Do you honestly believe that having a long drive in the 4th quarter when your defense is already shot is really going to be that much of a help?
You think? Have you read the threads? Well, lol, of course you have. But the defense is getting killed for the Green-Ellis drive, and the Rex/Pettine tandem were getting killed (last night) for not adjusting during the same drive.
A lot of those successful running plays were against a package that had 6 or fewer people in the box.
I'll indict the offense not the defense, too. When the Bills faced the Pats, Chan Gailey recognized that stopping Brady was highly unlikely, so he concentrated on stopping the run and out scoring them, which was a successful strategy. The Jets seemed to have enough D to shut down Brady as much as any team can, but they just couldn't ever get their passing offense going. That one 4th quarter drive was nice, but 7 3-and-outs against the Pats' D says that your offense lost the game.
No matter what way you slice it wasn't a huge difference in favor of NE. It was a difference but not some crazy amount. The D simply didn't get the job done. again, why w/ a slight disadvantage in TOP in the 1st half plus a 12 min break did the D allow NE to score w/in 2 mins of the 2nd half?
You won b/c you picked off Brady 4 times including one for a TD, let's not make it out to be anything more than that.
No the bottom line is, a ball controll offense, could not stay on the field against the worst defense in the NFL. Think about that. We could not convert on third against the worst defense in the NFL. You want to sit back and blame the defense, sure go for, but defending shotty and this offense is just silly. They had Mangold back. The Oline looked better, but our skill players let us down. Sanchez is still throwing behind people too much. Conner and Plax had some very bad drops. Outside of Holmes no one steped up against a very weak Pats D. It was an ugly outing. They offense failed from the outset of the game. The D had a rough time with the third ranked offense in the NFL, yet sacked Brady as many times in this game as he had been all year to this point. The offense did jack shit against the worst defense in the NFL for most of the game, so yes they deserve most of the blame.
It's becoming a signature of the Bills defense: give up yards, but force TOs. They got 4 INTs from Vick and a fumble recovery for 5 yesterday. That's just how they play. They also stop the run pretty well. Most of Philly's running yards came from Vick (I think he got 90 -- most on 1 or 2 plays). The Philly RBs didn't do much. The fact that NE couldn't run against the Bills forced Brady to have to throw to move the ball. The fact that the Bills are willing and able to throw and score from any place on the field forced Brady to continue to throw even with a big lead. Commentators claimed that Brady got greedy at the end of the first half by trying to score via the air, but the fact is that the Pats had no choice because they couldn't run the ball and they knew the Bills were NOT going to give up. The Jets cannot put offensive pressure on anybody. That's a big problem because good teams can dictate the game whenever they get a decent lead.
Now NE is the worst D in the league? Miami scored 24 on them but 7 were in garbage time so they really had 17. SD scored 21 on them Buf scored 27 at home and got 4 INTs Oak scored 19 on the road Were we far off from what they have allowed this year? Our O took some baby steps yesterday, we know they are struggling which is why we need our D to play their best. They didn't. They allowed 30(yes 7 on a bad call but we got lucky at the end of the first half so either way it was 30) and allowed NE to milk the clock and ice the game w/ a FG in the 4th.
Yes, they are. Ranked #32 over all and #32 against the pass. they average 326 yards against through the air and we amassed less than half that at 158. they also give up an average of 106 yards on the ground... our offense got 97. So we ran a bit less effeitively than most teams against them. We threw for 158 yards against the worst pass defense in the NFL. We went 3-11 on third down. This is against a banged up defense that is missing thier best player in Mayo. I don't know for certin if its shotty, Mark, our protection, receivers, or Rex pulling the strings this week, but we failed to get things going against the softest D we are going to see all year.
^^What he says^^ I've been harping on this for weeks now... lack of 3rd down conversion. Last week there was 10 seconds on the clock in the 1st Q before we got our first 1st down. This week we didn't convert until well into the 2nd Q. Dismal! Yes, there were some drops, but Sanchez has to deliver better. And where is the deep ball? I remember Elway's thinking about throwing bombs and risking INTs. His theory was, if you throw it deep and it gets intercepted, so what, you were going to punt on the next down anyway. Send it out there and maybe you draw a flag if nothing else. Low risk play. Sanchez has the arm and you can't say we don't have quality WRs, so WTF is with the constant dink and dunk? Close your eyes and you're looking at a Chad Pennington offense.
In a small defense of sanchez, if that was Penny back there he would have been out with an injury by now. The kids has been getting destroyed back there at least 3 times a week. :wink:
Rankings are great but they have allowed 22.8 PPG(including a garbage time TD Miami scored) and we scored 21 so we were right in line. Also, they are impossible to beat at NE in the reg season and allowed 21 in their only previous home game against a SD team w/ a good O so we were right in line again. Remember, our O was brutal last week so this was baby steps forward.
No question about it, especially without Mangold. But even yesterday WITH Mangold, the lack of 1st down production was appalling. I think Sanchez is so traumatized at this point, he's looking for the short dump pretty much from the snap ala Check-Down Chad. I'm afraid even with protection, it's going to be a while in his development now for him to be comfortable enough again to systematically look for the deeper opportunities. Rex Ryan looked forlorn in his post-game interview last night. He looked like he was trying to keep a positive outlook, saying things like "we ran the ball a little better, so what we need to do is get a little better each week."... looking for anything positive to take away. Of course, that's his job, but from an outside observer's perspective, we look like shit and can't even convert on 3rd down. I'm afraid we're not who we think we are for the most part. And notice nobody is ragging on Joe Namath this morning.
I seem to recall Brady having some success with this philosophy yesterday when he was under pressure on 3rd and long.
So your completely fine that we went 3-11 on third down? Having two drives that went over 25 yards is ok? Thats a step forward? 8 drives of 3 and out is improving? Never mind the fact that we went up against a defense that was vastly inferior to the previous one we faced. That would not support your position would it? Our offense, fully healthy enough to play, was abolsute crap against a pitful D. Miami is averaging 15 points per game against other defenses, had 24 against the Pats. They also had 5 drives of over 70 yards. The only two 3 and outs the San Deigo offense had were due to fumbles and ahd two other drives of 50+ yards ended by Ints. They moved the ball on that defense very well despite scoring only 21. going 10-12 on third downs against the pats. We do not nearly compaire to that. Buffalo had 7 drives over 25 yards against the pats D. We had 2. The Raiders were able to sustain 6 drives of over 50 yards against thier D. We pale in comparison. The best thing that could be said about yesterday is that we did not turn the ball over.
Though it was only about 2 minutes when they got the ball on their final possession. The bottom line is the Jets O took too long to get going and the Jets D could not stop the Pats in the 2nd half.
I liked the commitment to the run game I just didn't care for the design of some of the pass plays on Sunday. They needed to stretch the field and utilize play-action against the worst D in the league. Did we not use much PA or am I mistaken? You gotta get more than 3 scores against a shitty D like that.
Double PA reverse out route to the FB who was 2 yards past the LOS? That's a good play right? And what happened? The ball was dropped. That's why its both Schotty and execution. The play is just something that's rarely run in the NFL, and then when it has the chance to get positive yards, its not executed. Also, why call that play on your own 20 yard line? If it goes wrong, the opposing offense can be on the field and in the red zone with ease. It's just stupid. Its not Cutesy anymore, its Stupid.
