But the Jets are in a situation where$30 million wouldn't hold them back from signing free agents for the next 3 years. Plus if Cousins sustained an injury that would sideline him for 3 years he would not count at over $30 Million per year against the cap for 3 seasons. You don't actually believe what Cimini wrote about a fully guaranteed contract do you? Cousins will get under $30 mill per year, there will be a large signing bonus, workout bonuses and 2 years fully guaranteed. If injured workout bonuses are negated which would lowered his cap hit further. Besides, if he honestly has a 3 year injury, he would retire, get paid via injury settlement, completely removing him from the cap and bringing the team much closer to the cash spending minimum requirements (89% of the cap in a 4 year cycle).
Palmer works primarily with HS and college QBs where Christiansen works with several current NFL starting QBs and also works for several NFL teams helping evaluate and train their QBs so it's seems like a natural progression. Could be a Jets connection there as well. Maybe Bates is communicating with Christiansen since he can't communicate with Hack.
If he had not given up on Hack he would have played him last year. He gave him an opportunity during pre-season and he failed. If he was part of the plan he would have been at least getting 2nd team reps during the season but instead he remained 3rd string all year. From all reports MM is now looking at FA QBS and a QB to draft. I think it's quite safe to say Hack is not in MM's plans. I agree with Cosell that it takes 4 years for a QB to develop but a 2nd rounder does not get 4 years. Often times a high 1st rounder does not get 4 years. A 2nd round QB is quite a long shot and they get few opportunities before teams move on. Hack may get another chance with another team but right now he will be lucky to make the Jets roster next year.
I agree with you that Hack was a reach. I personally hated the pick. I hate the idea of drafting on arm talent and physical size. I personally believe guys like this will fail a lot more than guys who might be lacking in measurables but have shown they are good football players. That being said I do not have a problem with the pick. If you think a guy in the second round has a 10% chance of being a franchise QB you should take him. When its all said and done a 2nd round pick is not worth a lot. The odds of a 2nd round pick getting a 2nd contract is slim to begin and I imagine even worse taking a QB in round 2. I disagree with the philosophy of drafting a guy like Hackenburg not the pick. Which is why I hate the idea of taking a guy like Josh Allen and why I am deeply afraid we will draft Allen.
Thanks for the video. Hilarious when fans lose their minds about guys throwing in shorts at the combine, and then crap all over Hack for doing the same thing. I don't get excited for watching practice without pads, but his footwork and release looks very fluid.
Sorry, but that's wrong. Mac has no control over who plays. He may have some input, but the final decision is all Bowles. With all the Jets' needs, they can't afford to use two draft picks on QBs, nor do I think Mac would if he even had plenty of draft picks and few needs. Why wouldn't a 2nd rounder get 4 years? They probably need the time more than 1st rounders do. Are they just gonna throw away the pick? If they do give up on QBs that quickly, then it just shows how stupid and short-sighted they are, and then they are to blame for the shortage of quality QBs. IMO he will be on the Jets in 2018. The only way he won't, will be if the Jets sign Teddy Bridgewater, McCown and draft a QB at #6. Even then, Hack may go to the PS.
Hacks greatest contribution could be calling Allen Robinson and recruiting him. Hahaha imagine if we got Barkley and Hack actually became a qb. Penn State Jets
Mistake drafting him in the second. If he was so shot to bits that petty beats him year 2 then why that high! I like the guy and he's young. Maybe with the right coaching team around him it works but I'd like him to be the 3rd/4th qb in camp to fight it out. If he can't beat petty out this camp then cut him. Is rather draft 2 qbs 2nd round and below and resign Josh than have them as number 2 and three next year. (Not my favourite scenario) Sent from my SM-G610Y using Tapatalk
Bowles does have final say. But it's naive to think that Macc wouldn't have told Bowles he had to see Hack at least line up under center. Once. They're looking for making a huge investment at QB this year and you don't think Macc and Bowles would want to know if they already had a QB that was capable? Both wouldn't rather use $$ and/or a valuable pick on another need position? It's obvious to all that they're not looking at Hack as a FQB and they're going in a different direction
Whole heartedly disagree. Under a normal regime with a savvy HC that might be the case, but not here. The first two years of Hack career were an absolute waste under Gailey. Period end of story. Gailey didn't know what to do with the two rookies and basically redshirted Hack, knowing full well he was a prospect needing a tremendous amount of exposure and development. Gailey said it loud and clear, he was instituting a new offense and there were only so many reps to go around. It was just too damned bad we wasted so many on Fitz on year two. So Hack first real exposure was last year, and he wasn't ready but looked far more poised. I'm hoping that we finally strike gold with yet another new OC. One that actually knows a thing or two about developing QBs. It might not be Hack, but for any rookie that puts his career and his future in the hands of this coaching staff there better be someone that knows QB development. Because trusting Bowles to be that person is by no means the answer.
This is not realistic at all. Based on your reasoning , Tom Brady drafted in the 6th round in 2000 and starts in 2001 takes 1 year and your basing on if he had flopped in 2001 he would have been cut? It took Eli Manning a good 5 years to finally get to where the fans were off his back, let alone having the Giants throw in the towel. Drew Brees was a 2nd round pick and was with San Diego for 5 seasons before they let him go. Luckily he signed with a team that knew how to use his skills. Ryan Leaf, drafted #1 barely was in the NFL for 4 years. My point is , there is no set rule for determining when a QB is drafted and how long a team will allow for his development over a set period of time. And this is why I believe the show is not over for Hack yet. He'll be on the roster for 2018.
You know sometimes its just the player. He just doesnt have it or doesnt get it. Its so friggen easy to just blame another person, Gailey here, for Hack failing. And what the hell, leak a pile of blame on the HC. Even though this HC, like almost every HC from the defensive side of the ball, gives almost all of that responsibility to fall on the offensive staff. Funniest part is fans on one side of their mouths complain that we need a HC who is involved in the O, then those same fans will complain that the O sucks because the HC is a defensive coach. Also find it interesting that while complaining about Bowles issues as a HC when it comes to the offense, for a QB to thrive under, both Fitz and McCown, both long time NFL players, easily had their best years under Bowles watch. But hes a huge problem.
Supposedly, Mac and Bowles talk and are in agreement on decisions, but Mac has said several times that it is Bowles' decision who plays. Since they're peers, Mac can't tell Bowles to do anything. Of course at this point, they're not gonna stake their careers on Hack becoming a FQB, but that doesn't mean that they're gonna jettison Hack. They're still gonna hope to get some return on that investment. They're hoping he can become the Jets' backup QB for the next couple of years, and maybe longer.
While it is easy to blame the coach rather than the player, sometimes it is the coach's fault more than the player's. Sometimes the coach only has one way of coaching/teaching, isn't a good teacher, or is trying to force a player into a system in which he doesn't fit, rather than adapting the system to fit the talent of the players he has on hand. In terms of blaming Bowles, the buck stops with the HC. It is HIS responsibility to make sure that his position coaches and coordinators do their jobs and develop the young players that the GM adds to the team. So, it makes TOTAL sense that the blame would go to Bowles, not only because ultimately, he's the one held responsible for player development, but his ideas about offense date back to the neolithic era. The fact that both thrived had nothing to do with Bowles, but rather the offenses they were playing in, the adjustments the OCs made in their offenses to fit their abilities, and the fact that both QBs had a lot of NFL experience in those or similar systems. Bowles trusts veteran QBs, no matter how bad they've been before.
