Here's our Plan B if Greene is hurt. LT and McKnight carrying the load, LT on 1st and 2nd down, McKnight more on 3rd. That should be sufficient enough behind our OL, though it won't win the SB. The other part of Plan B is Santonio Holmes, Brayon Edwards, Jerricho Cotchery, and Dustin Keller. We'd be throwing a lot more.
gt = georgia tech genius in their tripple option offense, dwyer was usually the up back and he'd either get it and run straight forward (with no cutback decisions to be made) or nesbit would run the option with the tailback ... either way he had very few choices to make as a runner. our o-line is built for one-cut guys with vision, you dont know if dwyer can do that but you know all about this kj (kiper jr, i know how you love acronynms)
Wouldn't that be gtg? I always thought they were Yellow Jackets, but the GT Genius's/Geniuses sounds cool.
Ah, personal insults... the last line of defense in any substantial argument. Dwyer ran many plays from the traditional HB position. Please don't make me dig up my vids. But even if he didn't, my argument is not "Dwyer for president!". I was talking about him as a late round pickup who could have potentially contributed this season, should Green get injured... and contrasting that with McKnight, who will most likely not make a significant impact in our running game this year.
i understand your argument....but how could Dwyer make a bigger impact than McKnight if he were on the Jets' roster......when McKnight brings more to the table regarding skillset.
so who started with the personal attacks? mcknight has the skill set to contribute all over the field ... dwyer would be lucky to make the 53-man roster
i think hes getting at McKnight isnt ready to run between the takles on a consistent basis and if Greene goes down its not like LT turns the clock back 5 years. basically Dwyer's skillset, although limited in comparison to McKnight, fits the "Ground N Pound" mentality more. that being said McKnight was brought in to replace Leon and he has a comfort level with Sanchez. i see both sides to the argument. either way were rolling the dice on LT with Greene's style making him more likely to be injured. I have a good feeling LT will silence some critics this year though with an effective red zone running/pass catching presence
i dont, just because hes a bruising back doesnt mean that he's a fit for this offense. you need to have vision for callahans zone blocking schemes and dwyer has not displayed that he has that vision ... not his fault, but it is what it is
yeah...i understood what he was getting at. But from a value standpoint...it wouldn't have made sense for the Jets to draft Dwyer over McKnight because of what each athlete brought to the table....in regards to their skillset. If we were in the market for an in-between the tackles brusing HB.....then Dwyer makes sense.....but we have Greene for that role. Saying "when" he gets injured is pure speculation....his recent history says he will....but until it happens...it's all poppycock. The guy was a rock at Iowa.
well nowhere did you hear me say that he could easily make the conversion into a zone system and make great reads. the point is mcknight is softer than leon 6 ft or not. that i know ive watched plenty of them both. im not saying I agree with the statement that Dwyer would be a better fit either. I'm saying I could see the school of thought behind the fact that if Greene goes down you have nobody to weaken the defense. thats certainly not LT's style and its not even remotely worth discussing McKnight in that role. basically all somebody is saying is if they were going to spend a late pick on a RB they wouldve preferred Dwyer over McKnight. they feel Dwyer as a bigger back fits the mentality of us using the run to set the tone. me personally, I like the Mcknight pick. as long as Greene stays healthy *fingers crossed* were gravy. Greene can pound people all day and LT will dominate catching out of the backfield and getting some carries in the red zone. McKnight can be brought along at the pace required to not expect anything out of him yet at the same time get his feet wet.
you said dwyer fit the ground and pound more, and i dont agree ... mcknight is not soft, he's as tough as leon, but there are few players that are if the duty is split, he can handle running between the tackles this year ... he wasnt running all sweeps at usc
Not impossible to hit 1,300 if he stays healthy. That said, LT is going to get an opportunity to show what he has left. If he can prove the naysayers wrong, it might be difficult for Shonn to hit 1,300. I know I'm dreaming, but I'd love to see 2 1,000 yard backs. But, it's not impossible.
so youd hand the ball to mcknight 20+ times a game before you did to Dwyer? mcknight is not as tough as leon, ill swear by that. agree to disagree on that point. I think McKnight is a great replacement for Leon. that being said I'd have very little confidence in him if Greene went down. if McKnight is getting half the carries were in for a severe dissapointment. I guess you have alot more faith in McKnights development as a pro prospect up to this point than I do. and i'm not one of the people saying I wish we drafted Dwyer instead of McKnight. theres multiple schools of thought on how to build a team. this all started simply because I said I understand your line of thinking and I understand maybe some people feel uncomfortable about McKnight. although I liked the pick alot.
If you thought/considered that to be a personal attack, that was your mistake. It wasn't. Coach gets my point(s) well. I also think McKnight could very well be the better back down the road, in terms of value in overall skill set, but not now. And this season we're geared up. We should have drafted a back like Dwyer, IMO, just as insurance. All I'm sayin'...
if the Jets would've spent a draft pick on another bruiser type HB....after signing LT and drafting Greene the previous year......the world would've exploded.
