Agreed, my intention was not to downgrade how great Montana was. But I think Elway woould have been great in any system with his arm, legs, toughness, and intangibles. I think Montana's greatness was more enhanced by his surroundings than Elway's greatness. Just my $.02.
Wow whomever started this thread left out a whole slew of oldies that could easily rival todays QB. If such a oldie as Terry Bradshaw (4 SB rings) did not make the starter of this threads list he knows very liitle about FB. I am talking of QBs in like the 50s & 60s, Maybe the starter forgot they played FB back then as well.
it should say " Of these good QBs, who do you think is the best?" because there are many other greats that you did not include, Bart Starr and Joe Namath just to name a couple.
I think Deberg won 1 and Montana won 2. Marty was great at getting teams to the playoffs, he just was awful once he was there. It took the combination of Montana and Marcus Allen to win Marty two consecutive playoff games.
Yes, DeBerg beat Los Angeles. Montana beat Pittsburgh and Houston- in the House of Pain. (But, you didn't mention DeBerg at first.) Krieg was okay. Those others (Bono, Grbac) were turds. I thought Grbac was the worst QB I ever saw who actually had nice looking stats. He posted some numbers. I will give him that. But if anyone saw him game in and game out, they saw a turd. I thought it was a horrible decision by Baltimore to sign him after they won the Super Bowl. Disgraceful quarterback.
I love Montana as a QB but he did play for the greatest Offensive Coach since Hank Stram and he was surrounded by superb talent. People always bring up his years at KC as proof of how great he was. I look at Marty's KC teams and really bad QB's like Deberg, Bono and Grbac got KC pretty much the same amount of wins as Montana did. Marty has a habit of making every one look good until he faced teams with equal talent in the playoffs. Steve Young might have won 4 SB if he had started with the 49ers instead of Montana? That's not a knock on Montana but I don't think Montana is the best QB in NFL history simply because I don't think he was as good as Bradshaw and Staubach and maybe even Elway and Marino. I think any of those guys would have won big with Walsh but I'm not sure Montana would have won as much with Knoll and some of the other down field passing coaches.
Tim Green wrote in his book "The Dark Side of the Game" that the Falcons feared Young more than Montana. He may have written something to the effect that the Falcons defenders went so far as not trying to hit Montana too hard, so that he'd stay in the game and Young would stay on the sidelines. I have Montana, Elway, Young, Staubach, and Marino all very close.
The premise was pretty dumb based on the poll but any time I get to engage Cakes or some of the other guys talking about some of my favorite players I'm a happy camper.
Joe montana... The least strongest arm from the group, which has more chance of getting INT. And relied on time and precision... To me montana is above all the choices.
these are younger icons Staubach Bradshaw Stabler Unitas and if any jet was even worthy of the list it would be Namath.................Vinny? har de har har
