Good Article on Eagles QB: Mark Sanchez

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  1. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    I would be careful in regards to what Jaws says. He said Kaepernick could become the greatest QB of all time.

    Wonders can happen when you get away from Schottenheimer and Sparano. If we had a competent OC when Sanchez was drafted - he would prob still be our starter and more than likely we would have a SB appearance by now.
     
  2. nyjunc

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    we had one and Mark was good under that OC.
     
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    No he wasn't Junc - he wasn't good enough. Mark's potential was never fulfilled with Schottenheimer as the OC. Notice how it only took a few months and Mark's looking far more comfortable than he did with Schottenheimer. Mark himself said he doesn't even want to go to the Rams.
     
  4. JStokes

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    Blahblahblah and he also really liked Clemens, but it doesn't discredit what he's seen this offseason.

    And I agree with your second point--the guy was never developed, he was handed the keys to a Ferrari and told go win us a SB without any real plan for him to do so.

    Maybe it's been his shoulder since 2010. Would truly suck if he becomes a really good QB in this league.

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    Jaws does a lot of QB scouting (and he deserves some credit) - I just don't believe everything he says.

    There was never a plan for Mark Sanchez from the day he was drafted - That falls on the Front Office (Tannebaum) and the Coaching Staff (Schottenheimer, Rex). He was handed keys to a reliable offense coming in, but as the offense deteriorated the Jets did nothing to infuse youth. Then when the talent eroded they wanted Sanchez to put the team on his back as you said - Mark's not that type of QB. You look at how they are developing Geno compared to Sanchez and it's night and day. Mishandling Mark Sanchez could be a blessing in disguise for the Jets.

    I said it when Sanchez got drafted, that the Jets should have looked at the Cowboys blueprint from the mid 90s and see how they developed and played Troy Aikman. An above average QB that with a reliable team steps up in the post-season.

    I won't be surprised if he has some resurgence some-where, hopefully if it does happen - we never see him on the other-side of the field. If it does happen, I know the Jets are going to get fucked, it's my worse nightmare.
     
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    Scratch Tennessee. They are loving Mettenberger down in Nashville. Damn so many good QBs in this draft.

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  7. JStokes

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    This is the biggest issue I have with the Sanchez haters. They seem to think he should have put the team on his back and elevated everyone's play all the whilst they were taking talent away from him and replacing it with shit.

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  8. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Mark was a young QB under him and he was improving. after year 2 the talent started to dwindle then Brian was let go and mark had his worst year by far.

    Mark looks comfortable b/c a)he's healthy and b) he has talent around him.
    when did Mark say he didn't want to go to Rams this offseason?

    that does crack me up, there's one guy in this league who can do that and that guy is a top 5 all time QB. name me the QBs besides Brady that win w/ average talent? but mark was supposed to to that w/ the Chaz Schilens types.
     
  9. JetDan

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    All I wanted to see was Mark with MM, in a regular season game(not preseason)
     
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    When you draft a guy at 5 to be the face of your franchise you go overboard to surround him with talent--you do EVERYTHING you can to insure he succeeds. When he should have been taking off after 2010, they started taking away from him. And when he needed to rebound after 2011 they gave him Tim Tebow and even more shit to work with.

    Yeah, but he should have just carried that team.

    What a clusterfuck.

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    Fans need a scapegoat, Mark was easiest person to blame.

    He was improving at a small rate from yr 1 to 2, but Mark could have been a better QB with a more competent OC. Look at how they developed him. Colored wrist-bands? C'mon now. The offense was never truly tailored to Mark as his and Brian's career progressed - he made Mark restrict his game to tailor his offense - that's not how it goes, you adjust and adapt to the players around you. Brian was head of the offense and he let the offense go to shit. That's on him and the FO.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...s-sam-bradford-brian-schottenheimer/14538707/

    I believe it too. The only person on God's green earth that thinks Schottenheimer was a competent OC is you and you alone.
     
  12. nyjunc

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    he improved immensely year 1 to year 2. the difference is it didn't always translate to #s and fans only think a QB is good based on #s. he took a step back in 2011 but was still good, 2012 is when he took a huge step back but the circumstances around that season didn't give him a chance.

    seriously? you want him to say he wants to be traded?

    Many people feel that way, those that understand the game.
     
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    He improved from being a liability (whom lost us at least 3 or 4 games that yr) to someone that can help us win games late. I appreciated that about Mark but unfortunately in year 3, there were some things he should have done better.

    No, Mark should say he wants to be a starter and that's it. You don't understand the game enough because you don't consider all of the factors. You see only what you want to see.
     
  14. nyjunc

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    he didn't lose us 3-4 games that year, we lost primarily b/c of mark in probably 2 games at NO and vs. Buffalo. MAYBE you can add at NE and we didn't lose b/c of him in the title game.

    why should he make waves? chances are he will remain in Philly, he's being a good teammate and a good employee showing his loyalty to Philly who gave him a chance. it wouldn't help the situation at all to say he wants to be traded. everyone knows he wants to start but he knows what he signed up for this year.

    I see everything, I don't just look at #s or focus on negative stats w/o realizing how they were accumulated.
     
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    At the end of the day what hurt the Jets the most is how they handled Mark Sanchez. I don't blame Mark 100% for failing with the Jets only a fool would think that.
     
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    Any game where Mark threw more than 2 interceptions with the #1 rushing / defense he's the weak link and was the problem. There was about 4 or 5 games where he threw more than 2 INTs.

    Mark should have said, I want to be a starter and that's it. Don't say you don't want to go anywhere - just focus on yourself and improving.
     
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    he didn't fail w/ the Jets though, he had one failure of a season then got hurt or else he'd still be starting here.
     
  18. nyjunc

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    that's complete BS. each game is different and our D was really good but was not great, the rush O was very good but FAR from great. don't just look at #s. The D blew more games that year than the QB. The D also won us more than the QB too.
     
  19. 101GangGreen101

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    He's no longer here Junc. Mark failed. Mark could have controlled some of the turnovers he was generating.

    Mark was part of the problem Junc. You can't throw 3+ interceptions and say it's not the QB's fault. He needed to make better decisions, it was as inconsistent as his actual play.
     
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    The Jets handled Sanchez like a guy with no confidence or poise who inspired no confidence in anyone around him. The guy I saw Thursday night taking his drop. finding a receiver and delivering the ball was a different guy.
     

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