I would have LIKED to see him in the WCO, the same offense he was successful with in college. Putting a QB in an a new offense just doesnt always work, look at Eli Manning right now, the guy looks lost out there in the offense that Ben Macadoo is bringing over. (it might not ever work with Eli, ever)
Mark has done zip. He's been ok in two exhibition games and give him credit he made the Eagles as no. 2 Qb with competition. And could play some this season if Foles is injured or plays poorly. I respect Chip Kelley, he's a smart guy and knows what he's doing. Supposedly he's always liked Mark and tried recruiting him for Oregon. So we'll see how Mark does if he gets in real games (and I think he will). If he can manage Chip's complicated offense and play well in it more power to him. But right now Mark hasn't proven anything.
Yes there are circumstances when releasing a player was the right decision. Regardless of what they went on to do after. It isn't as black and white as you're trying to paint it.
Kelly's system isn't tailored to Foles, Foles has the skillset to exceed in it. Same way Mark Sanchez likely has the ability to do extremely well in it. I agree Sanchez got a raw deal in NY. He was saddled with two of the worst OCs in memory, in particularly Shotty who Rex knew was making things harder than they should be but refused to reel him in because he believes in empowering his coaches not micro managing them. But Schitty should have gotten the boot immediately after the game 1 loss to the Ravens in 2010. Sanchez will likely be better in any system he plays in than he was with the jets, but how well he does in Kelly's inflated QB system in the preseason doesn't reflect his true abilities because of the inherent nature of Kelly's system to produce abnormal QB results.
They made more adjustments for Mark and gave him more chances and opportunities to be successful than any player in the NFL I can recall. I still believe their big mistake was in year 3 when they went away from the ground and pound. When Schotty opened up the passing game and tried to make him a passing Qb he imploded. With a conservative offense he was alright. When other teams flooded the zone and put pressure on him he turned the ball over regularly. I don't think in a precision offense he is accurate enough to be successful. We'll see in the regular season when the pressure is on him and coming from all directions. His fans blame everyone but Mark. The OL, the OC, everybody. The fact remains that while you should tailor your offense to the skill set of the players esp. the Qb there comes a point when it falls on the player. The Jets commiited themselves to Mark and wanted him to be successful. The HC even tatooed Mark's name on his ass (or somewhere).
I'm not going to rehash the old whose fault Mark Sanchez "sucked" argument. My and many other posters in this thread's positions are well documented in the countless Sanchez threads on this site. I'll just say there's plenty of blame to go around with the majority placed at Mark's feet. That said, from a football perspective I still would have preferred seeing Sanchez brought back at a reduced price to "compete" for the job than signing Vick for 1 year and essentially handing Geno the job. Like Soxx, I thought the WCO was the perfect fit for Mark; that's why I bolded that specific part of his post in my response. I thought even if he failed to win the job he would still push Geno and possibly play well enough to yield something in return in a trade. Those are my opinions. But like my sig says those opinions appear to be those of a Sanchez Fan,...by definition anyone who is a Sanchez Fan does not know much about football.
I can't help but laugh at the Sanchez fan boys strokin it over him mopping up in the preseason vs backups. Were you this excited when Brett Ratliff did it? Probably not.
While Mark is to be blamed for the majority of his issues here. The FO and coaching staff gets blamed for doing two things. 1. The FO should've kept the flight boys together. That should've been the top priority. Mark had chemistry with each one of them. Then once that's done you then pick up Plaxico who Mark developed chemistry with in the red zone. If you're developing a young QB you do not get rid of players the QB is comfortable with. 2. The coaching staff for changing the game plan. They should've continued to implement a conservative approach. Why did they assume Mark was ready to throw the ball like Peyton or Brees? Keep the 2010 conservative approach and let him prove he can handle more responsibility.
I really wonder why Rex never brought in his own offensive coordinator. He did bring in Cavanaugh as the QB coach (whom is my friends uncle and Rex basically called him while at Pitt College and asked him if he wanted to come to the Jets). Typically a coach brings someone from their former team, Hue Jackson was the QB coach at the time on the Ravens, he probably was considered but Rex went with Schottenheimer. (Jackson never had a good offense in either Atlanta or Washington so I im not sure he would have been much better)
The reason why we didnt resign Braylon was because EVERYONE thought Braylon was getting 7-8 million. Heading into that free agency (remember it was the lockout one so everything was rushed), it was: Holmes #1, S. Rice #2, Edwards #3 in free agency. Holmes and Rice got picked up immediately, then Braylon sat around because everyone thought his pay was a step below the 10 million Holmes got. The Jets signed Burress for 3 million, then Edwards sat, sat, and then slowly it became apparent that not a single team in the league needed a WR (Again most thought he was worth 7-8), eventually free agency settled down and Edwards was still there which was shocking. So then Edwards had to take whatever he could get, San Fran gave him around 3.5 million and he signed, he had to. Had Tannenbaum known that Edwards price would drop to 3.5 million, they would have never gave Burress 3 million. That is the true story of the whole thing, I dont fault Tannenbaum either, the free agency was extremely unique because of the lockout, it was something they had never dealt with and the Jets needed a second receiver.
This is 100% true to, I think Mark was ready to open the offense up BUT we did not have a deep threat, at all. We should stuck with running the ball more but obviously L.T.'s play declined somewhat to in 2011.
No not true, Edwards wanted 7-8 million, he was coming off a big year and was considered a top 5 free agent that offseason. (The top guys were: Nnamdi, Holmes, Rice, Cromartie, Edwards) The whole perception was that Jets could only sign 2 out of the 3 guys (Holmes/Edwards/Cromartie), but as it turns out they could have had all three.
Oh and the lockout SCREWED the Jets. Had it been a normal season, things would have been slower, PLAX would have still been in prison, and we would have gotten Edwards back cheap. That lockout killed the Jets organization, we chased Nnamdi to which probably wouldnt have happened either, (and even if we did, we wouldnt have lost out on as many free agents, that lockout free agency was like a mad rush if you recall)
We could have had all 3 if not for Tanny's dumb chase for Nnamdi. We didn't even need to bring Holmes back (I didn't recommend bringing him back). The offense looked best when we had Braylon, Cotchery and Keller as the top 3 options. Add in Kerley in that year's draft and the future would have been bright. But Schottenheimer would have still been the OC ...
I agree, I advocated to sign Braylon first and let Holmes go elsewhere. The deep threat was a lot more important to me, especially with Sanchez using the play action.
Wait a second...are you telling me that nobody in the league needed a WR that was supposed to be a top 5 FA? Seems like just maybe the rest of the league didn't see it that way
