I know. I haven't been on here much. Oh well. They really expected him to post even better numbers in the lesser games? He would have (probably easily) topped the single season college sack record (27) if he had done that, don't these writers realize this?
Coach Tressler's comment was, "those folks talking about his "up-and-down" play just don't know what his assignments were, from game to game. He wasn't asked to always rush the quarterback, you know..." Chalk it up to fans trying to make up a reason and rationale for what they haven't got a clue about.
The over the top praising and criticizing sports writers based on percieved pro/anti jets bias has really gotten out of control. W/ that said..I'm alittle lost why there IS so much talk of Gholston being sucha risk and a bust. We're talking about a guy who now holds a CFB Powerhouse's school record for sacks over guys like Mike Vrabel, AJ Hawk and Will Smith. You combine that w/ RARE physical ability(which by the way doesnt get mentioned enough. Gholston's triangle numbers are off the charts)...and it seems like a no brainer for me. After all...the science of making long term player projections is based on 3 main categories... 1. Success in college-check 2. Physical skills-check 3. Good fit in pro system- It looks good but we'll see Looks like a no brainer to me. COuld he be a bust? Sure... but that projecxtion goes against general draft theory.
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/de/vernongholston.html http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles...profile-tab-set-1:player-profile-tab-analysis http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=742536 That's just 3 of the top 5 hits for Vernon Gholston Scouting Report on Google. All of them before the Jets chose Gholston, so not relating to any specific Jets bias in the media. I think he has a 50/50 shot at being a very good player, the other 50% is not so nice. He's more of a natural than a technician. He's somewhat injury prone. He's a tweener who may have trouble covering his assignment out of the backfield when he's used that way. He's also very fast for his mass and extremely explosive off of the line of scrimmage. We'll see what all of that turns into. I'd be a lot happier with the pick if he was going into a proven system with defensive coaches who were well regarded around the league.
You nalied it with this one................precisely. Until the Jets win a SB handily; we will always be under the sights of fault finders.
What's with all the anger? He's entitled to his opinion. To tell you the truth, I have questions about Gholston as well, and I wouldn't be surprised if he did bust out. Sheesh, the author even admits it's all in fun. He's just a guy w/o green glasses on his face.
This is a really weird post. So theres a 50/50 chance he'll be good or bad. Sounds like about every other player ever. I have no idea where the injury prone thing came from. I'm not sure he's missed any time to injury since becoming a starter. My guess is his speed, size, and explosiveness will probably turn into pluses. Why? Because they already are. I know, I know...crazy and homeristic of me as usual. The system...well the system seems to be working fine for the Pats and even for us and the n00b coaches come the bye week the past two years...so...iunno. Completely agreed. The first guy I quoted in this post would probably say he's headed to the HOF if he landed with the Pats...on the Jets he's just another dumbass pick...just like D'Brick, Mangold, and Revis have been. Yea...since whoever Kelly is refuses to post nudez of whoever it is they're posting pics of...how's this one: ?
Much like the CB position,the 3-4 OLB hybrid spot is turning into a position where workout warriors generally tend to work out. You look at guys like Kameron Wimbley, and Shawn Merriman...both of them had similar bouts in college wherein they dominated some games and dissapearred in others. They both had the freakish physical attributes recorded at the combine, and are now flourishing. The reason for this? I believe it's the versatility of the position as well as the 3-4 defense. You have alot of options to cover up these guys possible weaknesses and highlight their strengths.(Merriman is usually attacking the LOS and Wimbley is usually put in space or asked to hit the corner). W/ their superior athleticism,if they prove to stay healthy, and dedicated to the game, they're going to flourish in SOME role. Now back to the comparrision to the names listed above. Gholston actually has alot more statistical hardware(albiet over one season's time).. jets bias aside..I'm willing to wash that based on superior defensive talent around him compared to the other 2.But believe it or not...his overal athleticism and triangle attributes are much superior than the latter 2. Fact remains..if the CS finds the right way to use him...and he's as dedicated/smart as has been documented...hes gonna be a helluva player in some role. There's just too much athleticism for him not to flourish.
Mayo > Gholston - I highly doubt this guy really watched every game Gholston had last year. If he did, he would know that Gholston played like a monster against subpar teams, and was lack luster against better opposition. Only real exception was against Michigan where he destroyed, Jake Long. There are valid reasons on why VG could be a bust, but I hope he turns out to be a freak of nature for us. I am still on the fence on this one. I want to be proved wrong!! *crosses fingers*
my thoughts exactly....... aside from a few posters, there's an overall lack of objectivity here. The draft is a crap shoot and leading into the draft, Gholston probably had the highest boom/bust potential. How the chips fell dictated the JETS had to take him. Of course I hope he turns out to be a monster, but wouldn't be very surprised (albeit disappointed ) if he only exhibits flashes of potential. After all the horrible draft picks over the years you'd think everyone would develop a thicker skin. relax people :shit: :wink:
Gholston Jeez, i cant wait to pre-season to see what these players can do when they all get a chance.
whatever people complained about trading up for david harris last year. where are they bitching now? time will tell.
It goes the other way. After watching bad first round picks predominate, especially at the top of the first round, it becomes like a reflexive twitch when the pick is announced: how did they fuck it up this time? What's amazing is that even when the pick looks like a no-brainer, like D'Brick, we're still twitching 3 years later.
i was always against picking him. lol the guy flat out cant run block and gets bullied even by speed rushers sometimes. he put on some weight this offseason but lets see if the idiot can use his 5 ft arms to finally get a lock and extension on his defenders d bricks quality is his footwork and speed hes able to constantly keep himself in front of defenders. his negative is hes not overly combative and doesnt use his hands as much as ud like. and hes more of a puncher than a lock and drive blocker also. the the guy has insane potential but hes yet to put it all together
Could somebody out there tell me how this guy Gholston is the key component to a successful New York Jets season? I mean, I know the team has question marks and all (which I have outlined in too many posts), but I just never thought that this guy was the MVP of the team going forward, and all of that, etc. If draft choice mistakes are how we measure the Jets, then we're looking at a bad time ahead, what with the trades of DeWayne and Vilma and the rest of them... But for some reason, I think this season will depend more on how the OL performs, and not the DL.
