Someone who is a Herm fan has no credibility in my book. For example, Jericho Cotchery anyone? Says it all.
LOL. 1. That was a Parcells built team. 2. Herm SUCKED at replacing talent lost, and retaining young talent. We lost McKenzie, Thomas, and Fergy all in their mid to late 20's...all have been damn good players since moving on...we lost a starting RT (still looking) starting RG (still looking, Thomas better than Moore), and a guy who was vital to our run stuffing D then and would have been a good stop-gap NT forus. But that doesn't matter, cause Herm coached really talented teams to 10-6 records twice... 3. That last sentence is big. '01-'04 was a GREAT window of opp. for this franchise. We had a very good, physical D. Our O-line was one of the tops in the league and our running game was solid at worst. Herm coached that team to 10-6 all of two times. 4. While coaching us to 10-6 twice, he did nothing to replace the talents lost or give us talented depth for the future. 5. You gotta be fucking kidding me if you really think anyone will get behind you on Herm being a good coach. It's an even bigger joke to think this guys press conferences actually helped us in any way, shape, or form. 6. I realize none of this will sink in. Oh, almost forgot...: ROTFL @ Herm leaving a playoff caliber team.
The deterioration of the OL was one of the cardinal sins of the Herm regime. The only move they made that helped was signing Kendall as a free agent. One good move in five years was not enough to stem the overall tremendous decline. The Jets went from having one of the best OLs in the league to one of the worst, and that while protecting a china doll like Chadwick.
When analysts laugh at the fans and their opinions, its you they laugh at. I hate the fact that you "say" your a "fan of this team" - because I get lumped in with you. KC's "Tradition of Winning" got them an SB 39 years ago, one year after us. They haven't been back since- just like us. So where is their tradition of winning? You're just not an intelligent individual. I'm beginning to believe your full of shit and more or less a troll on this site.
Bosco, Herm hasn't exactly lit it up in KC, other than maybe a c pipe. His team is even worse off than the Jets. At least the Jets are moving forward. I see the chiefs as going horizontal. I doubt they get more than 6 wins this year. I also think that Herm will get the shoe after the 2008 season is over. I give Mangini and Tannenbaum a huge amount of credit for resurecting this team given the complete mess they inherited from Herm. I am not judging things on last season; I am also factoring in the first year. When Herm came here he inhereted a very good team and it took him 5 years to ruin it. In KC, he inherited an average team and it took him under 2 years to ruin it. I guarantee one thing: If Mangini was playing Pittsburgh in the Divisional Playoffs, there is no way on this earth ever that he would tell the QB to take a knee when there is a field goal on a questionable field in the balance. Probably one of the dumbest things I ever saw a coach do. I for one, am very glad Herm is out of here, and even if we got nothing for him as compensation, we still would be better off.
Herm Edwards Thanks for your intelligent reply, Green Hornet... But... Well, I've been here before: When NYC watches a former coach or player move on to a different city/team and they win a championship. Are you old enough to remember when Steve Balboni was traded to Kansas City and won a championship with the hated KC Royals? (One of my worst moments as a NY sports fan.) Here's an item: Most experts gave high praise to the KC Chiefs for their work in the draft. Yes, you and I would like to ignore that. And yes, these "draft reports" are a bunch of bull. But on the other hand, most of the NY Jets players praised Herm Edwards when they played for him and he did have a good resum? after he left. I am curious to see what NY Jets fans reaction will be if the Chiefs end up with a better record than the Jets is year. Just curious.
Wow..... i don't know what to say about the embarrassing comment at the end of your post. You just don't know football. And why do you continue to say "NY Jets Fans" instead of "our" or "us"? Maybe because you're completely full of shit.
I agree with you in Herm departure. However, we were able to pick up Leon Washington with the Chiefs' 4th round pick. I know we wanted a higher pick, but given how things turned out, I think we got the better end of the deal with that one. :up:
Herm took over Parcells team and Dick Vermeils team, Mangini took over Herms team. I would expect it to take longer than 2 seasons to rebuild a Herm mess and longer than 2 season to destroy Vermeils team.
Someone explain to me WTF the Royals have to do with the Chiefs beyond sharing a city. Or what a trade the Yankees made 20+ years ago has to do with...fuck it...this thread is retarded.
Run For The Hills, I Am Back! I am always confused by the Jets fans who dismiss the accomplishments of the Herm Edwards regime. And if I am right, and the KC Chiefs fare batter than the NY Jets in the years to come, I hope all of you will give me a tiny bit of credit for seeing this coming. I am a Jets fan who thinks that Eric Mangini is a fraud and a loser. I know people hate to hear this, but it's my opinion, and as a Jets fan I would really like to be proven wrong. Meanwhile his possible involvement in Spygate makes me think he's the same kind of cheater (and jerk) as Belichek. 1. Here's my take on the Edwards playoff teams being "Bill Parcells teams": Yes, after the first year, you are right. It was a Bill Parcells team the year after Herm Edwards coached it, the same way Bob Lemon's 1978 Yankees' team belonged to Billy. (Maybe a few of you jerks can take that "troll" label off m now?) For one year after Herm took over, it was all about Bill. However, once the team makes the playoffs in their next year? After missing them for most of the time for many decades before? The coach deserves a litttle bit of credit. If you can't give Edwards some credit for this accomplishment, then you're just a jerk. And there seem to be just enough jerks on this message board that I just might be ready to quit soon. So, keep it up! 2. Talent Lost Well, how much of the decisions to draft players or sign free agents were up to Herm, and how many decisions were Terry Bradway's? We will never know, but I always wonder, where TF did Bradway go, anyway? 3. As for that DeWayne Robertson draft pick, which was the linchpin of the Bradway/Edwards regime? At the time, Everyone applauded it. It wasn't one of those "Lam Jones/Bryan Thomas" draft picks that were a total reach. And by the way, the regime that resigned Bryan Thomas to a huge contract was not under Herm Edward's watch. 3. 10-6 Records Cheezis, the history of the NFL is littered with teams with talent that ended up 10-6 or 8-8, or failed in the playoffs. My personal take, call it the "Bosko Theory" for now, is that the best any NFL fan (or baseball, or NBA, or etc.) can expect from their team, owners, coach. management etc. is to make the playoffs. Then it becomes a crapshoot. You know what else I think? Any sports fan who doesn't appreciate my theory and whines and moans and complains about their team's performance after they make the playoffs and lose a game by a field goal? And then said fan wants heads to roll after wards? IMHO they are a spoiled little beeyotch. And this sounds like it just might describe you, and all the other people who hated Herm. Maybe you would have been happier of the Jets were 4-12 during the Herm Edwards regime? Wait a minute, you are the same guys who think Chad Penninton is another Joe Montana because his statistics looked so good when he was throwing the ball under Paul Hackett's system! The system that prevented the Jets from winning a Super Bowl! But enabled a mediocre QB like Pennington to look like a superstar because Curtis Martin was such an amazing RB?
And yet you pat yourself on the back already... - Abraham, Martin, Ellis, Pennington, Vinny, Fabini, Thomas, Lewis, Coles, Chrebet, Glenn, Mawae...but fuck it I already said that...in one ear out the other I guess. Yea...I'm sure Herm had no control over personell decisions. What about Cotchery not starting despite years of praise? And the guy/s that made the Thomas pick... OK? Bryan Thomas is a useful player and that contract is not huge. One that Edwards failed to capatlize on while *not* replenishing the talent on the roster. 1. Ge to the big dance. 2. Make sure the organization has a long term plan. Edwards failed in both regards. Uh huh. Probably would have been if Parcells didn't stock the roster with good, young talent all over. And I would have disliked him more. Yea...no.
it took you a few days to think of all of that?? I can spew that bullshit in about 20 minutes of thinking. You're an attention-loving embarrassment. I only feel better about my football knowledge and overall self when I read your posts, so continue the charade- my night got even better because of you. Thanks.
