Getting Manning, keeping Sanchez would cure what ails Jets:

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  1. Roger Vick

    Roger Vick Banned

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    Manning can't stand Rex.

    He'd retire before he came here.
     
  2. soxxx

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    Do you have any evidence to back that up, or are you just posting false info out of your ass?
     
  3. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    I'm really skeptical that he has one more season in him. The NFL isn't a place where backs and necks last for long after they've started to break down.

    I think he collects his bonus from the Colts on the first day of the league year and then everybody holds their breath, just like they did this year, that he is actually able to play in 2012. Then he gets on the field in training camp and everybody holds their breath again that he doesn't go down. Then the season starts and everybody is still holding their breath because until he has actually played 16 games next year I think the logical assumption is that he won't be able to pull that off.

    36 is ancient from an NFL perspective, Brett Favre notwithstanding.
     
  4. jetsown22

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    Ancient? Joe Montana played till 38 and made the probowl at 37, Dan Marino retired at 39, John Elway retired at 38 after winning the superbowl and being the superbowl Mvp? Ancient to who exactly. Or we can talk about Steve Young who played till 38 while having multiple concussions which are 5x worse then a neck injury. Good qbs play forever and have a better shelf life then any other position in the Nfl, and if Manning gives us 2 good years id be happy, but any excuse for our boy Sanchez to be our starting qb next year right?
     
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  5. laxin

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    I would like you to have 3 neck surgeries and come tell everyone how it goes. And how you are in top condition and ready to be hit by 280 lb men. Also, concussions affects only really show later on in life, unlike neck injuries which start immediately.

    God am I glad idiots like you aren't anywhere near this organization. A move like this could set us back 5-10 years.

    P.S.- The bolded portion is the most retarded statement Ive ever read.
     
  6. BakerMaker

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    As good as Peyton is, he doesn't magically negate the awfulness of Wayne Hunter. He can dictate his own playcalling over Schotty(If he returns) sure but not Wayne Hunter.

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    Peyton Manning would have a similar war of words with the O-Line, in particular Wayne Hunter.

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    "God Damn it Shonn"
     
  7. BakerMaker

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    One thing you can never do is bandage the QB position. Yeah you will get 1 maybe 2 years of quick success but what's the foundation afterwords?

    Ask Arizona post Kurt Warner how good their QB position was the past 2 years? Yeah Warner helped take the Cards to a SB appearance but at what cost? Inept QB play for the years to come in ARI?
     
  8. hobgoblin

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    That's the result of poor drafting and zero foresight.
     
  9. BakerMaker

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    It was more so relying too much on Leinart who was there at a similar time when Warner came to Zona and once Warner surpassed him, saw his confidence destroyed.

    Quick fixes at QB don't work these days. Yeah the instant success Pennington brought to Miami was good but Miami to this day is trying to find themselves that go to QB.
     
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  10. jetsown22

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    Yup like drafting a Qb and waiting 8 years till he turns into something decent, Alex Smith was benched half his career and finally started playing decent after 8 years, lets keep giving Mr. Sanchez time and hope he finally grows a brain overnight and develop Nfl instincts. For every single success story theres 2 storys of failures. We drafted Sanchez # 5 based on 1 good season in college not 4(how many 1 season wonders are there in college huh?), he was rushed and never learned the Nfl level of play. To say you rather have Sanchez here instead of Manning is demented.
     
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  11. PhillyJet52

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    I am on the fence about this. On one hand, bringing Manning in would be a great boost to this team if he can play, he will make everyone better. It also will help Mark in the long run, let’s face it, he is a young QB, played very few games in college and was signed into starting QB for our Jets. It would not be horrible for him to sit, watch, and learn. If he is a leader on this team, he will understand and make the best of it. I just do not want to see another Favre mess. This will also be a good off-season to sign a receiver; do you pass on Vincent Jackson, Jackson (Eagles), Welker, etc to sign Manning?
     
  12. displacedfan

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    Again, nobody is here is saying let's give Sanchez 5 more years. Many people are saying we want to see him with a different OC next year and go off of that.
    We also don't want to throw away 2-3 1st round picks or more for a QB we have not seen play in year. Worst case scenario, he gets hurt game and we still haven't fixed any other weakness we have and now don't have a QB either. Worst case scenario with Sanchez is we rebuild our team's glaring weaknesses while keeping QB conisistent. Worst case he gets hurt or we let him go after two years and have a very deep/solid team where we can plug in an journeyman qb while we let another one learn.

    Now as everyone also said, if Manning becomes a FA, it becomes an interesting choice. I just have a feeling the Colts won't let him walk for nothing. They could use him for a couple picks which they could desperately use or let Luck learn behind and hope it plays out like the Aaron Rodgers scenario.
     
  13. semperfigreen

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    In the event he is released before he is due the big bonus, then it is a completely different story. I would not give 2-3 first rounders for Manning as we still have a lot of holes to fill.
     
  14. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    As per the article, they can't trade him prior to the roster bonus being due. That's why it's being suggested he could be cut.
     
  15. TommyJ

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    how long would Manning last with the way the O-line is playing now? he's always been very well protected for the most part in Indy. He might get killed here at this time. Sanchez was under a ton of pressure all year, granted he made some pretty bad throws too, it happens, players have off years, would i like to see Manning throwing passes for the jets, of course i would, but in the long run does that hurt Sanchez' development holding a clipboard after 3 years of starting? I'd say it would. And for the record, Sanchez's numbers have improved even if only a little bit.
     
  16. PatsFanTX

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    The reason he was so well protected in Indy was how quickly he went through his progressions and releasing the ball so quickly.
     
  17. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    The Colts have given up more sacks in 15 games this year than 2010 and 2009 combined. I suppose that is because there o-line fell apart?
     
  18. ManlyGenius

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    It is in part-they've had a lot of injuries-but QBs like Brady and Manning do help keep sack totals down a lot, between their quick releases and decision making, good pocket sense, play recognition ability, and quite frankly their willingness to throw it away at times rather than take a big old hit.
     
  19. TommyJ

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    That's a good point, but i still think he had solid protection there, and great field vision, something that Sanchez is not nearly as strong, then again Manning is alot taller.
     
  20. abyzmul

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    Not quick enough to avoid getting his neck broken, apparently.

    Anyway, why the hell would Manning want to play with the Jets after seeing how putrid our line was this year? That's suicide.
     

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