Obviously you didnt do well in reading comprehension. Those who dont want Manning on the team realize that this sport is more than the QB position and would rather build a franchise that wouldnt see its the demise with the loss of one player. This team could build itself and fill holes while building depth, while letting their young QB grow instead of signing a 36 year old future HOF who is coming off his 3rd major surgery while forgetting about other significant holes/depth.
Mark Sanchez didn't have a pick 6 that game right? That means the defense was responsible for 10 points no? Ask any quarterback not named Mark Sanchez if they can win with the defense only giving up 10 points. I think the Jets would of won that game just running it every play no need for Mr 17.5 mil. Wish he never threw that pick 6 or had a "Manning" like performance then we would never be in that spot to begin with. Obviously Revis lost that game for us by not making that open field tackle, who cares if he played well for the other 58 minutes, maybe we should cut Revis in the offseason?
You also remember Plaxico giving no effort at breaking up that pick 6? He just let the CB pick it off. No attempt. Not saying it wasnt a bad pass but I would like our big, physical, 6'5 WR to try and break that up. You also remember Sanchez getting completely killed on everyother play? You also remember our RT get tossed out of the way by a rookie OLB who weighs 80 lbs less than him? Or our ineffective run game? (you say we would have won running every play, but shonn greene was hurt, we had no push on the OL and averaging less than 3 YPC) Once again, team sport.
I saw that video earlier on ESPN of Wayne getting DESTROYED by Von Miller on that sack. EDIT: here it is LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLpimht0tUM
I never said we should cut Sanchez. If anything the cutting Revis argument makes more sense with me arguing to keep sanchez. You were arguing to cut Sanchez in part due to the Denver game. I am arguing to keep sanchez in spite of that like we should keep revis in spite of missing a tackle. Your are little confused here. The defense was also responsible for 7 points in the last 2 minutes of the game when we needed to hold them to a field goal at worst. Would I have like Sanchez to played better, of course. Were we not in the lead and then handed it to our defense to hold onto the lead? You know you can blame more than one person/unit for a loss? A defense and offense can lose a game.
No im arguing to cut Sanchez to get Peyton Manning one of the greatest Qb's to ever play the game. Look at the Thread title.
Didn't Manning throw a pick 6 six in the SB against the Saints that directly led to the Saints winning that game? Under your criteria, we should not take any QB on the team who has thrown a pick 6. Doesn't it happen to all QBs? Or are you only looking at one QB? And even with the pick 6 against Denver, the Jets had a 3 point lead and had Denver pinned on the 5 yard line and let the worst QB in the NFL drive right down the field like shit through a goose. One stop - one and the game is over. As for the Giants game, did Sanchez give up the 99 yard TD to Cruz that completely changed that game? Did Sanchez miss that huge FG before the half? Did Sanchez run the wrong route that led to his first interception ( you know that pick was Kerley's fault, right?). Did Sanchez snap the ball into his own leg on the goal line? Did Sanchez let Ware turn the corner and run 27 yards to virtually ice the game? Don't you get it? Football is the ultimate team game. In a league where the talent is so close, a play here or there make the difference between winning and losing. And, quite often, it is NOT the QB that makes or does not make the key play. This is what drives me crazy. If Cruz doesn't break that play, I think the Jets win that game. The Jets were down 20-14 with 5 minutes left and had the ball at the 50. If Schotty gets his head out of his ass and calls a few running plays to put the Giants on their heels, who is to say the Jets don't drive the field and score and win 21-20? If the Jets win that very winnable game, the Jets are heros, Sanchez is considered clutch for leading ANOTHER 4th quarter comeback, and the media is instead all over Manning and Coughlin for sucking it up. Instead, the big plays go the Giants way and we get ridiculous threads like this alllllll week.
No but he let up for a Safety, a Interception, a fumble, that led to 16 points more points then the whole defense gave up. Ok so the best argument you got is unless the defense and oline has a perfect game the Jets wont win? If thats the case theres further evidence Mark Sanchez sucks. Oh ya since this is a Manning thread Manning played behind some of the worst defenses in Colts history and Brady is playing behind the worst defense in the league this year. Common lets come up with more excuses though.
I would stop now, Jetsown22 doesnt discuss anything besides the position of QB... But yes, this just points out the need of a capable RT (given it was the best passrusher in the game tho)
If he doesn't make that play and we actually gave Greene 20+ carries we win that game easily. Eli Manning was struggling badly the whole game and we shot ourselves in the foot like we have all season.
Jetsown22 is the reason the trashtalk forum should be brought back. 280 posts bitching about Sanchez and terrible ideas in less than a month. Give it a rest dude we get it you don't like Sanchez.
Why don't we lure Troy Aikman out of retirement. He was one of the greats. I bet Terry Bradshaw would play for the league minimum. Let's sign them both and have a QB competition and let Sanchez ride the bench for a season or two to "learn" by watching instead of playing. Past performance means nothing, especially when the player is old by NFL standards. You don't win paying for past performance. I bet we could get Adrian Peterson real cheap right now. You can't tell me he has been one of the best running backs in the NFL and much better than Green. Let's see what it will take for Minnesota to give him up?
Or was it Sanchez's fault that 68 pass plays were called? This poster just doesnt get it. You can tell him over and over that this is a team sport. You can point out other holes that must be fixed. You can point out other reasons why we are 8-7 and he just doesnt get it.
I just pointed out to you that the interception was not on Sanchez, but Kerley. The fumble was Mangold's fault and led to zero points and cost the Jets nothing (Manning was picked off a few plays later and the Jets scored any way). Where are you getting these 16 points? On the safety, Slauson was beaten like a drum and the DL was in on Sanchez right away. Yes, Sanchez probably should have run forward instead of away, but when the rush comes right at a QB up the middle, it is difficult to get away. Not one turnover in that game that mattered was on Sanchez.
Thats thing we are arguing I think. We all know Sanchez is not a strength currently, but he clearly is not the biggest weakness. I would easily put OC, RT, and overall speed on D as bigger issues
Aikman is 50, Manning is 35 and still miles ahead better then Sanchez. Who the hell says Adrian Peterson can be had cheap now? atleast 3 1st rounders and the face of the Vikings. Where do you get this wonderful information?
