Maybe I stuttered, but that is not what I was comparing. If Ryan Tannehill got caught flashing his hiney on YouTube with some dumb sluts, we would have been taking about Aaron Hernandez. There are many things that don't make sense in NY State. Did they do a thorough background check on that 5 year old? I am still waiting for you to provide anything resembling substance that states that allow guns have some reason to be disarmed. Plug your heart. I'm sure there's some liberal stat site that can help you. The gun industry hasn't made near the amount as the tobacco industry our the pharmaceutical industry, and they both poison our country steadily and without much limit. Where is your outrage? So do I.
Yes, and I also know that there needs to be a limit put on gun shows. That does not equate to disarming the public, which you seem to be suggesting with your many comparisons to NY state. Which has the most restrictive laws in the country. Care to compare the number of gun crimes in Florida to the ones in NY? Don't tell me what arguments I need to be having. Your supposed anti-partisan take is fraudulent.
Byz, don't you live in Austin? I never thought of that as a dangerous place. More like the San Francisco of Texas.
As the old saying goes, If You Outlaw Guns Only Outlaws Will Have Guns. When I got shot if I had a gun with me it may have turned out differently and I may not have had to live with pain for the last 25 years. Unfortunately this was in NYC so having a gun was illegal for most everyone. I also used to live in Sanford where the Zimmerman-Martin incident occurred. I also happen to have a friend who was murdered in Sanford by someone who had an illegal handgun. Had my friend had a gun, once again things might have turned out differently. Of course there is no way to say how things would have turned out had I had a gun but I think the guys who did actually have the guns knew they had the advantage.
It's funny how all the good people who protect themselves from crimals with guns never get much publicity. I guess the government controlled media doesn't have much of a reason to highlight that. If you want 100% security go to jail. You'll never have it in a free society.
that doesn't really address what I was saying. normal, law abiding gun owners aren't walking around committing all of the gun homicides you mentioned.
Another spectacular showing by this defense team thus far. This case in terms of the murder charge is over. Id be surprised if the defense even mounted a big case when they begin to present.
I'm curious as to why the inanimate object wasn't blamed when a Patriots player allegedly murdered someone?
If you're going to claim fear for your life I want to see the guys underwear entered into evidence. There should be piss and feces all over them.
But this is beside the point. Who cares what law abiding gun owners do? It's the other guys, who are killing a lot of people every year with the guns that are made available to them in a society with liberal gun laws that are the issue. If hand grenades were legal and readily available law abiding citizens carrying hand grenades wouldn't be the issue either. Same for Stinger missile launchers. Ultimately the instrument of the crime is just as responsible for the results as the perpetrator. If it was not available the homicide wouldn't have occurred in most cases. There's a reason that the US has 4.8 homicides per 100,000 people and the UK has 1.2 homicides per 100,000 people. That's just homicides. Accidental and other shooting deaths make the difference truly overwhelming.
It is absolutely the issue. Are the gun homicides you are concerned about committed by legal owners of the guns which are properly registered to the owners? If not, the ability for citizens to own properly registered weapons isn't the problem.
Yes, it is the problem. Because it's the shield under which commonly available guns afflict American society. The reason you have a quarter of the homicides per capita in the UK than you do in the US is that the leading cause of homicide, guns, are just not available to most people, legally or illegally. This is because the authorities expend an enormous amount of capital, political and otherwise, to deny the wide-spread possession of guns in the UK. This expense of political capital backed up by significant enforcement has created a space in which the average UK citizen understands that guns kill people and that not having very many of them in circulation is a good thing for the average person. Then you get into the non-homicide deaths by guns in the US and the UK and the numbers just get silly. BTW, if you could setup a setup a situation in which only law abiding citizens were able to possess guns then things would be very different.
The overwhelming majority of gun crime is coming from inner city gang violence in cities with the most strict gun control laws in the nation. We have a gang problem, not a gun problem.
no, it is not the shield, because it is completely irrelevant to your point. you, on the other hand, are using the gun homicides as an excuse to combat all gun ownership, even though there is no connection from one to the other. your concern starts with gun homicides. if those homicides are a result of guns that are not purchased through legal means, or are purchased through means that allow the owner to avoid registering the gun and own it without any knowledge of any governing body, that is the issue that needs to be resolved. but if guns that are purchased through legal means and properly registered are not causing the homicides that you are concerned about, then they are completely irrelevant to your argument and stripping that ownership does not eliminate the homicides that you claim are the concern. you have to identify the problem and address it specifically. what you are doing is completely ripping all the plumbing out of your house because you have a leak, rather than simply replacing the washer in the faucet that is causing the leak. Great, now you have no leak and no water, when you could have had no leak and water.
The CO shootings and the shootings in Newtown were all done with legally obtained guns. Legally obtained guns are distributed to criminals all day long all over the country. I have been shot at by drunk hunters. I had a diner companion leave a loaded 45 in a restaurant in Disneyworld that we had to go back to retrieve. I helped an officer of my former company pack his house and move. 3 guns in the garage two loaded. I had a plant manager who supervised 250 plus employees keeping loaded weapons in his office while having an affair with a married women who's husband worked in the plant. We needed the State police to escort us in to fire him. The idea of the responsible gun owner is a myth. If you got rid of most of the guns, law enforcement would have guns along with the few bonded people who needed them. Access to guns that criminals can easily get would dry up. Some criminals would get them most would not. Besides homicides there are numerous suicides and accidental shootings that go on day after day in this country. We license drivers, register cars and require insurance, at the very least that should be a requirement for owning a gun. We are all going to die alone and few of us are going out easy. Stop living your life in fear of your fellow man, it's not going to protect you from a horrible ending and more likely it will hasten it.
I didn't realize that killing your mother and stealing her guns was obtaining guns by legal means. Thanks.
