Right, however Arians knew that he wasn't going to win a playoff game with Ryan Lindley at QB. Odds on winning with a rookie would have been just as low but at least the rookie had the possibility of upside. Basically after the Cardinals lost their 1st and 2nd string QB's the season was doomed. Why not see if the rookie can provide a spark in that situation?
So you're not REALLY a Geno fan? You're just being "objective"? LOL. One note johnny strikes again. _
Prob lacked confidence in Logan Thomas also. 4th round pick, may not even know the playbook. I guess it's like what Rex Ryan said, "Ryan Lindley gives us the best chance to win" - Just going by what Arians seemed to believe, I myself prob would have thrown the rookie out there myself.
1. I know - and agree - that Jets didn't put any QB in position to succeed. Hell - that was my original accusation during Sanchez years. 2. That said - did any of that happen with Sanchez? Ever? Think HARD about that. Sanchez DID dance butt naked, and that video went off viral. That happened when? Yeah. OFF SEASON. Did he ever miss team meeting? How about causing ruckus off field? As bad as Sanchez was, he actually knew how to behave like a professional. Whether Jets fucked him is not the point. [They damn sure did.] Geno doesn't know how to be a professional. What's so hard about this?
If #1 is true than you cannot dismiss out if gand Geno for #2 as Rex created an environment of no accountability or discipline.
Geno's problems are Geno's problems but they have been exacerbated by the coaching in my opinion. It was pretty obvious early on that Geno wasn't a particularly good fit in a WCO and the Jets answer to that was to run a WCO with the QB in the shotgun 99% of the time instead of 50%. The extra vision that the shotgun provided as well as the lessening of the need for good footwork didn't help much. Geno's issues are pretty clear at this point. He's not all that accurate on his throws, although this has gotten worse since he's become more turnover shy. He doesn't use his second and third reads as much as he should. He basically uses his first read and then either throws it away or dumps the ball off to the safety valve. He doesn't have particularly good peripheral vision and edge rushers give him problems as a result. He doesn't react well to pressure up the middle (most QB's don't) but he makes things worse by retreating in some circumstances. He used to escape to the outside under internal pressure fairly often and use his legs to make yards. That hasn't happened much recently. Basically in almost all aspects but turnovers Geno is worse now than he was in his first half dozen games in the NFL. That's on the coaches.
Step into Macs shoes for a second. Ok you're Mac, you think Mariota is the real deal. You think there is a real chance he falls into our lap at 6 unless a team jumps ahead of us. Are you gonna let it out that we are desperate to upgrade at QB or are you gonna let it out that Geno just might be the guy?If it's me I'm sending out all kinds of signals that Geno is our QB. I'm not believing a single word we hear about the QB position til after the draft.
You just don't get it, do you? I suggest you read John Wooden's book on coaching. He will tell you why the mental aspect of the player is so important; in his terms, the mental part provides the foundation on which you build the construction that is the player. Shaky foundation means terrible player regardless of the talent level. This is where Geno fails at. That has NOTHING to do with coaching. I get it - poor coaching didn't help. I agree with that sentiment. BUT that retard is not a pro material to begin with. A fully developed donkey is still a fucking DONKEY. Get that to your head.
Holy shit. Johnny one note- you have outdone yourself this time. Now Rex is to blame for Geno oversleeping and missing a team meeting, almost bitchslapping a stewardess and posting his junk on line? You are the worst of the Geno apologists. _
I don't agree on much of hwat you say here, while agreeing with other of what you say. I generally agree with your assessment of his overall problems, only to add that I think he doesn't use his reads that well because of two reasons that are, in his case, related - he does not see the field, the locatoin of the D, well, and he has poor judgment. I don't like is pocket presence, either, his sense of where he is, including not only in relation to the other players on the field, but even where he is on the field. But when you have a young Qb who has difficulty transitioning from what he did in college to what is asked of him in the NFL, is it really fair to blame the coaches if the player has more difficulty making that transition than others have? I don't think so. The Jets wanted Smith to change his game not for the sake of it. It was partly personnel, partly that they felt he should be able to transition, but also that in order to be effective medium to long term, he could not rely only on an Offensive philosophy htat worked for him in college. I also disagree it was on hte coaches that Smith's other metrics declined when he cut down on turnovers. That was instead the net result of the more conservative approach they felt compelled to install to cut down on game killing plays he was committing too often. What other choice did they have? I can't think of anything. Add in that the Jets were still able to run the ball, which is to the credit not only of Ivory and the OL but also the CS. I am amazed they were able to run the ball as well as they did given the lack of threat Smith was in the passing game. The CS never got credit for that, either.
Actually I am a Rex hater who correctly realizes it is impossible to properly evaluate a QB that played for him. I have serious doubts Geno is the guy, but also not quite ready to five up yet. We need to draft a QB
Geno's frustrating flashes of competency is what fuels his supporters. Factor in that the Jets "solution" was to bring in Vick to mentor/prod/poke/threaten /motivate Geno? Hopefully enough of the previous staff is gone.
I don't like Rex, either. But he had nothing to do with Geno's bad play. The only single thing I could blame other than Geno himself is inconsistent play calling by Marty. When Ivory is doing great they don't run him and then in another game they only run him.
I blame; Idzik stating that he would compete with Sanchez after the draft when it was clear that he still has some issues that required him to sit and improve. Ryan for his poor use of Sanchez and subsequent injury against the Giants forcing us to use Geno. Geno could of been a steady relief QB and had a career backing up other QBs around the league, Instead I think he'll hit FA from the Jets, pick up a performance, back-up deal with a more of a spread offense team and be out of the league by the 2018 season.
