Genius? Not so quick

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  1. Miamipuck

    Miamipuck New Member

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    I am curious how a coach without "charisma" can get on The Sopranos and gets a somewhat playful nickname like the Penguin from the team. No need to remind everyone how the team used it to have fun with him in a comic relief sense. If he truly had no "charisma" then you think the team would attempt something fun like that?

    I think in this case it is fact that this reporter does not comprehend the word and equates the fact he runs a tight ship (ie. he does not give reporters any useful info) to lacking charisma.

    My problem with a lot of these reporters is they equate the lack of useful info at a press conference to not having charisma. We have all seen the results of having a coach just ooze "charisma" and be universally loved by the press. I would rather see these ignorant articles then the ones waxing poetic on how much "charisma" the Head Coach has (think Herm Edwards).

    Seriously, I do not remember a truly negative article on Hermy, prior to his last year, because he made the reporters life unbelievably easy. Now that they actually have to report we have to endure 500 Kendall articles because it is the easy way out.

    BTW, He is called Mangenius as a play on his last name. It is not like he talks in the third person and demands he be called genius when he is introduced. Again it is a playful nickname. It is not like everyone actually thinks he is a genius. Right now I think he has the potential to be one of the better coaches in the NFL. Who in their right mind though is going to presume he is the second coming in only the beginning of his second year. Just my .02
     
  2. ukjetsfan

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    I love it when the media invents a nickname for a guy - and that rips the guy for the nickname.

    By-the-numbers writing from a by-the-numbers writer.
     
  3. gustoonarmy

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    Add this name to the growing list of 'I don't get it'...... :drum roll: ...IAN O'CONNOR.

    Ian its TC at the moment and you mention nothing of it other than the music , what kind of journo are you?
    Did he really hint at comparing Mangini with Bill Walsh? What an insensitive assclown!
    I , like many of you don't know Mangini at all , and yes sometimes the pressers are a little devoid of emotion , FOR gods sake IAN hes been on the football field all day , probably whilst you were tucked up with Teddybear ,and he'll still be around the campus when you put your slippers on.
    I actually do find humour in his pressers and the obvious code of conduct that hes installed sometimes gets in the way of what he'd really like to say.

    IAN O'CONNOR I suggest that you get yourself down to the Krusty Crab and flip burgers.
     
  4. AlioTheFool

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    I just love the attacks on Mangini. It means he's actually successful. If these so-called "journalists" were talking about how the team isn't performing to expectations, then we'd have a reason to worry.

    As long as they are resorting to making up stories about the CS or FO, it means there's nothing to complain about regarding the team.

    Thanks Ian! You've made my day!
     
  5. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Winning makes this guy sound ridiculous, start losing and everybody will be his parrot. I believe that is the comparison to Coughlin he is making here.
     
  6. glenn212

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    You are correct it is a "marathon not a sprint"..so what is this guy ripping Mangini? Oh wait.. he's not giving up the game plan at a press conference and not discussing injuries or contract situations with the press..GOOD. No one is giving carte blanche BUT Tanny and Mangini did a pretty damn good job in year one and that give Jet fans hope..blind faith is one thing being thrilled you have a coach who has a plan and who is obviously very bright and understands what it really takes to win in the NFL makes Jet fans Mangini fans..The guy is talking out of his ass and it is a cheap shot article
     
  7. glenn212

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    You are correct it is a "marathon not a sprint"..so what is this guy ripping Mangini? Oh wait.. he's not giving up the game plan at a press conference and not discussing injuries or contract situations with the press..GOOD. No one is giving carte blanche BUT Tanny and Mangini did a pretty damn good job in year one and that give Jet fans hope..blind faith is one thing being thrilled you have a coach who has a plan and who is obviously very bright and understands what it really takes to win in the NFL makes Jet fans Mangini fans..The guy is talking out of his ass and it is a cheap shot article..period
     
  8. GreenMachine

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    The only dew bag to mention Eric and Bill in the same sentence was the so-called journalist.
     
  9. jetsaholic1094

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    Does he really have nothing better to write about than to rant about a nickname?
     
  10. abyzmul

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    You know, Cman, I personally cringe every time I hear the 'Mangenius' tag spoken or see it written, but this article is pathetic. Aside from the Bears game comment and the playoff loss to the Pats, here are Idiot Ian O'Conner's main gripes about Mangini in his article:

    'Mangini appears incapable of delivering a Knute Rockne speech at halftime'

    'Questions are dodged. Say-nothing answers are provided in the most mind-numbing tone. '

    'In fact, the Jets' coach was so good as a rookie in boring news conference audiences to tears and in winning football games to boot, Belichick turned Jet-green with envy.'

    'Whatever. Mangini did his usual thing at camp Monday, walking into a news conference as eagerly as he would step into a lobotomy, and then throwing a whistle around his neck for the start of practice.'

    'A Mangenius? He's a coach who hasn't won any personality contests or playoff games.'

    Basically, they are not criticisms, but insults. This guy is a joke of a journalist, and this article is something worthy of Cannizzaro. He's angry because his job is harder to do in the offseason. Tough toots, Ian. Get off your ass and do some research.
     
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  11. CaneJet

    CaneJet Well-Known Member

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    I can agree that's it's too early to put Mangini in Canton (to use the tired cliche that Parcells invented), but the article has zero substance. It's the work of yet another so-called journalist that doesn't want to work too hard for his quotes.

    No coach gets carte-blanche in my book. But I'll take 10-6 from a rookie coach any day. Let's see what happens this year. It may get worse before it gets better, but as ManGENIUS (take that, Ian) has said...the key to adversity is how your react to it. This year may be our chance to see just that from the CS.
     
  12. VickBlows

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    If this board had it their way – Donnie Henderson would have been the head coach a few years back because he had a good year of yelling at our sorry defense. Is that guy even in football anymore?

    Point is – last year is history; it will be what happens over time that will judge his successfulness or suckness...no reporter or internet message board genius can tell us at this point.
     
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  13. YOYOYO

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    All it comes down is he isnt what Herm was to the media guys. Herm was wonderful for the media with all his rah rah bs. I would have to imagine the media cant stand the fact things are now under lock and key. The guy did a hell of a job last year and this offseason along with the FO has done a very good job. Lets see how things play out.
     
  14. xxedge72x

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    This article would have a lot more merit if it didn't feel like it was an attack directly at Mangini, rather than a warning not to get too comfortable.
     
  15. DACHUMS

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    This Writer Is Clueless !
     
  16. penny10jet

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    You know what the best part of this article is?

    O'Connor's basic argument comes from the logic that Mangini is no Bill Walsh. Well, fuck. Who the hell is as good as Bill Walsh? So because Mangini isn't as much of a genius as perhaps the greatest coach of all time, the guy who invented the system of offense that almost all NFL teams still use today, that means that Mangini is all of a sudden Tom Coughlin?

    What an idiot.
     
  17. KOWIE

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    its a well written piece, but that guy needs to yank the stick out of his ass and not write so....snobbish, or a better word would be whiney.

    ill agree that walsh was a different breed of coach, but how many coaches were like walsh? not many. maybe none.

    for this guy to act like a headline written by his collegues is all of a sudden a moniker that EM embraces and endorses is kind of sad. is he a good coach? so far. great? not yet. could he be? definitely.
     
  18. statjeff22

    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    Exactly. All of this talk about personality is so much nonsense. Nobody was loved by the writers more than Herm, but many of them also turned on him once he wasn't apparently going to take the Jets to the SB. Spare me the drivel, boys.
     
  19. Bizprof

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    I think we're seeing a bit of resentment still that Mangini isn't as buddy buddy with the media as Herm was. The guy does make one really good point though. The transition from lousy football team to good isn't nearly as difficult as the transition from good to legit superbowl contender. But was there anyone here that didn't already know that? Frankly though, the former isn't as easy as this guy makes it sound. If it were, SOMEONE would have pulled it off at one point in Detroit or AZ, right?
     
  20. MayoGate

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    Allot of passion in this thread:breakdance:
     

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